Sean Schofield wrote:

That's a pretty specialized case.  I haven't tried it but I don't see
why not.  Most IDE's allow you to plug in your own JDK.


It's not special to work on a JDK before it's supported at all. Eclipse took a long time to support JDK 5. Try it, it does not work in eclipse, it says you are using Jdk 6 but are targeting Java 5. (and the drop down's choice does not include Jdk 6).



Groovy?
ObjectiveC?
WinFX?


Doe your text editor?

Vi does!
Oh and what about... SQL, and the wired XML, like RDF, etc. or bash scripts, corn?

Plus it helpe to read the "javadoc" to know other way to do something, not "." thing that is blind.



Have you written a complex multi-threaded application before?
> If so I
feel sorry for you and your devlopment team.  While you are beating
your heads against a wall trying to figure out which of your 70
threads are deadlocked I am at the bar having a drink after running
Threadalyzer.

:-)
And it's intermitent? so you have to log it ;-_?
And w/ focus issues. Focus gets messed up in debugers, right!
Threading is prime example where debuger does not work.



There are certainly cases where an IDE can make you much more
productive.  Sometimes its no better then a text editor but its
*never* worse.


OK, lets say you are hiring somone. One guys says I need an IDE named "XYZ" to be productive.
Another guy sayz I need Ant, Nant.
Based on this, which do you think is more promissing to deliver and have to be carried on your team?

(and don't take it too serious, I am just trying to fan your flame)


Here's the IDE kiss of death:
It will take you 95% of the way. But then it's a steep drop to find out what it did when it cant' do something and you need to fix it and use non-documented swtiches for example. Or lets say you need to do fancy dynamic repetable layout.
I live in the 5%.
In order tob e able to fix the 5%, I want to know what the ide did for me. That's why VS 2005 is realy bad.

So... you won't do Groovy until your IDE supports it?


.V


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