On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Musachy Barroso <musa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I still don't understand why we don't let users know that there is a > build that we are testing so we get more eyes on it, before we call it > a GA. Is there any practical reason? or is it just the way it has > always been done?
It is supposed to be posted as a test build on the dev list only, for exactly that purpose. It doesn't get posted to the user list because it's not a release until it's voted on, and only releases are intended for use by users (as opposed to developers). One thing that seems to have changed is that the RM is sending out only a single message, combining the "here it is" and the "vote" messages into one. We used to send out one message to the dev list saying that the build was available, and then some number of days later, start a vote thread, assuming the build had not been shown to be bad in the meantime. Check out the dev list archives and you'll see what I mean. It seems to me that it would be good to go back to that two-stage process. The only reason I can recall for moving away from it was that some people wanted to get releases out faster, and didn't like the delay caused by waiting for a few days before starting the vote. Frankly I think that rushing releases is just not worth it if they end up having to be retracted later because of problems. (That does not do anything for our image as a quality framework either, if we keep having to pull releases that we originally claimed were GA quality.) -- Martin Cooper > musahcy > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Wes Wannemacher <w...@wantii.com> wrote: >> I was sort of thinking the same thing... I know I'll check the docs >> zip in the future, but I think it's a legitimate mistake that most of >> us aren't looking in the docs zip (since we've all already read them >> all, cover to cover, right?) :) >> >> -Wes >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Musachy Barroso <musa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>. In fact, I >>>> would ask those who voted on 2.1.8 to look at how they tested before >>>> they voted, and perhaps think about ways in which they might change >>>> their testing so that we can catch something like this before it goes >>>> out in a release again. >>> >>> Hey my windows partition is just for playing video games :) >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Wes Wannemacher >> >> Head Engineer, WanTii, Inc. >> Need Training? Struts, Spring, Maven, Tomcat... >> Ask me for a quote! >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > "Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone?" Pink Floyd > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
