On 28 Jul 2010, at 2:24, Kris Maglione wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:55:14AM +0200, Uriel wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Kris Maglione
<maglion...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:09:22PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
I think the right thing to do would be to extend Rule and
applyrules()
with support for WM_WINDOW_ROLE. However I doubt that many client
make
actually use of WM_WINDOW_ROLE in a consistent way, which is why I
believe there is no great benefit in doing so -- or in other words,
yet another proof how hideous X has become ;)
Has become? It was so from the start, and I'm really not certain
it's
possible for it to have become worse. There are certain depts of
depravity
in software that are impossible to surpass without resorting to
Java.
I think somehow X managed to surpass its own hideousness without
resorting to Java thanks to things like the use of XML by fontconfig,
and the auto*hell-ization of the whole X.org distribution.
I have to admit that I don't make a strong distinction between XML
and Java, but fontconfig really isn't X. It's just an external
library like anything else.
Can you build or run the X server without fontconfig? I haven't tried
in years, but if I remember right the one time I tried, it wouldn't
work.
And, as for autohell, well, bad as it is, I'm really not sure that
it's worse than imake.
Indeed. I've not heard anything good about imake, and back when
autotools was considerably less mature than it is now I only ever came
across one or two packages outside X which preferred imake to
autotools.
