True. You can always stop using maven. My problem with that (purely in my own experience) is that it replace the gawd-aweful 50K-worth-of- ant-scripts/make-files I've inherited. The notion of a stable lifecycle (even if I have to do more work to lock down the plugins) ends up being more than worth it. But that's my own situation. Your mileage may vary. Given that they're working out some issues at the core, I guess the next step after that is to work out quality in the plugins themselves.

Anyway, I guess this has really strayed OT. Sorry. It's just after having built build system after build system in *make/jam/ant, and seen the crap that ends up accumulating in corporate builds at my clients, Maven still seems the cleanest way to get to reproducible AND manageable builds. Sad though that may sound.

Christian.

On 12-Feb-08, at 13:33 , Jesse Kuhnert wrote:

I know what will make it stop though.


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