Meanwhile, can somebody go ahead and paste the current template from svn
into the admin console?  Thx

Bob Harner
On Jan 2, 2012 3:36 AM, "Ulrich Stärk" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Apache CMS does exactly that. You keep markdown (default, other document
> processors like jekyll
> possible) sources in version control and it generates the website for you
> automatically and almost
> instantly upon checkin. The downside is that only people with Apache
> accounts can contribute. But
> sending in patches isn't too hard either...
>
> -1 on hosting the (sources for the) documentation outside the ASF.
>
> Uli
>
> On 26.12.2011 23:14, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> > I'd love to use something a bit more offline, like Jekyl
> > (https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll) to generate the documentation.
> >
> > The only advantage to our current approach is that we have a half-way
> > ground, where signers of the CLA can contribute documentation.
> >
> > What about if we maintain a public Git repo for the documentation, and
> > only accept pull requests from people who have signed the CLA?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I don't know. My gut feeling is that it will take several months to
> migrate
> >> our content, something we should start thinking about in the coming
> months
> >> but not something to start doing quite yet. Remember, just because the
> >> infrastructure guys say something will happen by a certain deadline
> doesn't
> >> mean it really will. A lot can change in a year.
> >>
> >> I'll admit I'm reluctant to move quickly to a new homegrown CMS system
> >> designed from scratch by a system administrator, built on Perl, written
> in
> >> just 30 days and only in use a couple of months now. I'd rather let some
> >> other projects work out the kinks.
> >>
> >> Bob Harner
> >> On Dec 26, 2011 2:19 PM, "Josh Canfield" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The comments on your defect seem too imply that we only have
> confluence for
> >>> a year. What happens after a year? How long is it going to take to
> migrate?
> >>> On Dec 26, 2011 6:43 AM, "Bob Harner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, but I wouldn't be in a rush. Better to let other projects work
> out
> >>>> the bugs, and maybe they'll even come up with a migration path that we
> >>> can
> >>>> use. Right now we have a very nice system that works well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob Harner
> >>>> On Dec 25, 2011 6:58 PM, "Josh Canfield" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> It sounds like there needs to be an effort to get off confluence if
> we
> >>>>> really only have "a year max".
> >>>>> On Dec 24, 2011 8:18 AM, "Bob Harner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Howard (or anybody else with Confluence admin rights),
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can you paste the template in one more time?  I've updated the
> >>>>>> template in SVN again, with a work-around.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> /tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt
> >>>>>> The Apache infrastructure guys marked as "invalid" the INFRA-4248
> >>> JIRA
> >>>>>> issue I filed (no surprise there), So now I've gone in another
> >>>>>> direction, forcing IE into standards mode using the
> "x-ua-compatible"
> >>>>>> meta tag. (For the curious, see
> >>>>>> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, the IE problem persists. The DOCTYPE declaration is
> >>>>>>> still not being rendered as the first item in the HTML.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I checked several other Apache web sites -- Shiro, Directory,
> >>> Camel,
> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ -- which also use the auto-export process, and they also
> >>> all
> >>>>>>> render in Quirks mode in IE due to having the DOCTYPE in the wrong
> >>>>>>> place, even though their auto-export templates
> >>>>>>> (e.g.
> >>>
> http://shiro.apache.org/confluence-auto-export.data/shiroConfluenceAutoExportTemplate.vhtml.txt
> >>>>>> )
> >>>>>>> are correct. So I guess this problem is caused by the export plugin
> >>>>>>> itself. Maybe the Apache infrastructure guys are forcing the
> >>> license
> >>>>>>> to the top for bureaucratic reasons.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Unless somebody has another idea, I'll file a ticket with the
> >>> Apache
> >>>>>>> Infrastructure team. I don't think they really want to support the
> >>>>>>> auto-export plugin, though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alternatively, we could change the site design to work well in
> >>> Quirks
> >>>>>>> mode. But I'd really rather not do that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Updated, export in progress.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The problem is that the export process is causing the DOCTYPE
> >>>>>>>>> declaration to appear below the license comment block, despite
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>> template having it the other way around. It turns out that not
> >>>> having
> >>>>>>>>> the DOCTYPE declaration as the very first thing on the page
> >>> causes
> >>>> IE
> >>>>>>>>> to remain in quirks mode.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I updated the file in SVN again, moving the velocity directives
> >>>> below
> >>>>>>>>> the DOCTYPE declaration. Can you (or anyone) try pasting it into
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> admin console again, making sure that <!DOCTYPE html> is the very
> >>>>>>>>> first line in the resulting text? (Or if you want, give me the
> >>> site
> >>>>>>>>> admin rights to do so myself.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Then I'll just publish a single page so we can see if it is right
> >>>>>>>>> before exporting the whole site again.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the new DOCTYPE didn't seem to help, even though
> >>> my
> >>>>>>>>>> tests showed that it would. My IE 8 is still rendering the page
> >>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> Quirks mode. More investigation needed...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <
> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Export is in progress, now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <
> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On it!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bob Harner <
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For many many months now, our nice Confluence-generated
> >>>>>> documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> has not looked right in IE, due to IE rendering in quirks
> >>> mode.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> simple fix is to switch to a proper doctype, such as the
> >>> HTML5
> >>>>>> one, in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the auto-export template. I have done that today and
> >>> committed
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change, but somebody with Confluence admin rights (such as
> >>> Uli)
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> need to paste the contents of the newly-committed template
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> (/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> into the admin screens as described at the bottom of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/confluence-site-setup.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once that is done and the whole site re-exported, IE will
> >>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tapestry once again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to whoever takes care of this!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>> me
> >>>> to
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