On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:15 AM Ben Weidig <b...@netzgut.net> wrote:

> Hi Gavin,
>

Hello, Gavin and Ben!


> that sounds great, thanks for the help!
>

Agreed! Thanks!


> I'm not in the position to decide alone if this is the way to go forward.
> What do the others think?
> IMO it's the best solution for now.
>

I agree.


> I've looked (a little bit) into Pelican and exporting Confluence data, and
> it looked like A LOT of manual work, including the recreation of the
> current design.
>
> If there's still a need to switch CMS in the future, switching without the
> upcoming deadline and with a finished website-template might be more
> sensible.
>

100% agreed. It would be an awful lot of work better spent elsewhere since
we now have an option to keep the current setup which has been serving us
well.


>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 12:25 PM Gavin McDonald <gmcdon...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 2022/01/14 10:31:54 Gavin McDonald wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I believe I have a working solution that means you may continue to
> > publish as you always have via the Confluence Wiki!
> > >
> > > CXF, Sanuario and couple of other use the same method and we have
> > converted them over successfully.
> > >
> > > I have created a new config file for you [1] and tested it [2] and it
> > works fine for you also.
> > > I have not yet enabled the commit step for publishing as I wanted you
> > guys to check the output and approve it for use.
> > >
> > > Feel free to commit a minor change to your cwiki and check the output
> of
> > the next build [3] which runs and 11 minutes past each hour.
> > >
> > > (I added a temporary 'svn st' step for you to compare the output is as
> > expected.)
> >
> > Changed 'svn st' to 'svn di' to make it actually useful
> >
> > Gav...
> >
> > >
> > > Let me know how you get on.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Gav...
> > >
> > > [1] -
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot2/projects/tapestry.py
> > > [2] - https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/77/builds/361
> > > [3] - https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/77
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2022/01/13 18:29:34 "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" wrote:
> > > > Hello, Ben!
> > > >
> > > > Have you been able to do the content conversion and import? I'm
> afraid
> > I
> > > > still need to write a bit of stuff for the 5.8.0 release. Once that's
> > done,
> > > > I want to help you with the process.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 8:43 AM Ben Weidig <b...@netzgut.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've looked into the general problem, and it seems to be that the
> > favored
> > > > > new way for a project website is the Pelican static-site-generator
> > with
> > > > > buildbot.
> > > > > At least it's the one most mentioned:
> > > > >
> > > > > * https://infra.apache.org/project-site.html
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Migrate+your+project+website+from+the+Apache+CMS
> > > > >
> > > > > I've used Jekyll in the past and now Hugo for personal stuff.
> > > > > Most likely, there'll be some customizations needed, but in the
> end,
> > it
> > > > > shouldn't matter what language is behind the SSG.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So the first step would be deciding which software to use and
> > getting INFRA
> > > > > involved in setting it up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Next, building a template to reflect the Tapestry design.
> > > > > There's an ASF-template that could be used as a starting point.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've exported the Confluence content as XML to look at the data,
> and
> > it's a
> > > > > single XML file with ~ 1.5 million lines...
> > > > > Transferring it will be cumbersome, but hopefully, a converter can
> > be used,
> > > > > maybe something like
> > > > >
> > > > > https://gist.github.com/grugnog/2e6ee420707a8196951956cf4dbf6e91
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Another critical point is a stable URL structure, so Google will
> > still have
> > > > > the same content with the same URL in its index.
> > > > > Hopefully, 301 rewrites can be done with htaccess files.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll check out content conversion and import into a SSG in the
> first
> > week
> > > > > of January.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers and a happy new year!
> > > > > Ben
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 5:02 PM Gavin McDonald <
> gmcdon...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Although the ticket quoted below was fixed, we still need to move
> > you
> > > > > away
> > > > > > from using the CMS - and that means migrating your job off of the
> > CMS
> > > > > Slave
> > > > > > at ci.apache.org, it means migrating you away from using
> > tapestry.conf
> > > > > > file and it means moving you away from using built in CMS tooling
> > like
> > > > > > build_external.pl .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have created a new ticket
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22684
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do not ignore this email or the jira ticket, the CMS WILL BE
> > TURNED OFF
> > > > > > January 31st so you must act now, so testing and enhancements can
> > happen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gav...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2021/09/16 15:56:50 Gavin McDonald wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As you should be aware by now, the CMS is deprecated and going
> > away.
> > > > > > > You are one of the last remaining projects still using the CMS
> > (in part
> > > > > > anyway)
> > > > > > > to publish your website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > An Infra ticket (
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22208)
> > > > > was
> > > > > > opened as
> > > > > > > your site no longer publishes. We will not be 'fixing' the
> > problem that
> > > > > > currently exists
> > > > > > > but rather we want to get you off of the CMS and publishing
> > using a
> > > > > > different method.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please liaise on the existing ticket above and we'll help get
> you
> > > > > there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gavin McDonald (ASF Infra)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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