On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 9:12 AM Gavin McDonald <gmcdon...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 2022/01/18 01:00:39 Bob Harner wrote:
> > I agree too, Gavin's option is very good news.
> >
>
> Ok everyone, shall I consider this approved and close everything out ?
>

I vote +1 to that. We can figure out any potential future glitches later,
and yet this is way better than converting the whole site to a different
tool.


>
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:56 PM Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:15 AM Ben Weidig <b...@netzgut.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Gavin,
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hello, Gavin and Ben!
> > >
> > >
> > > > that sounds great, thanks for the help!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agreed! Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm not in the position to decide alone if this is the way to go
> forward.
> > > > What do the others think?
> > > > IMO it's the best solution for now.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I agree.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've looked (a little bit) into Pelican and exporting Confluence
> data,
> > > and
> > > > it looked like A LOT of manual work, including the recreation of the
> > > > current design.
> > > >
> > > > If there's still a need to switch CMS in the future, switching
> without
> > > the
> > > > upcoming deadline and with a finished website-template might be more
> > > > sensible.
> > > >
> > >
> > > 100% agreed. It would be an awful lot of work better spent elsewhere
> since
> > > we now have an option to keep the current setup which has been serving
> us
> > > well.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 12:25 PM Gavin McDonald <
> gmcdon...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2022/01/14 10:31:54 Gavin McDonald wrote:
> > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe I have a working solution that means you may continue
> to
> > > > > publish as you always have via the Confluence Wiki!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CXF, Sanuario and couple of other use the same method and we have
> > > > > converted them over successfully.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have created a new config file for you [1] and tested it [2]
> and it
> > > > > works fine for you also.
> > > > > > I have not yet enabled the commit step for publishing as I
> wanted you
> > > > > guys to check the output and approve it for use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feel free to commit a minor change to your cwiki and check the
> output
> > > > of
> > > > > the next build [3] which runs and 11 minutes past each hour.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (I added a temporary 'svn st' step for you to compare the output
> is
> > > as
> > > > > expected.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Changed 'svn st' to 'svn di' to make it actually useful
> > > > >
> > > > > Gav...
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know how you get on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gav...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] -
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot2/projects/tapestry.py
> > > > > > [2] - https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/77/builds/361
> > > > > > [3] - https://ci2.apache.org/#/builders/77
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2022/01/13 18:29:34 "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello, Ben!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have you been able to do the content conversion and import? I'm
> > > > afraid
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > still need to write a bit of stuff for the 5.8.0 release. Once
> > > that's
> > > > > done,
> > > > > > > I want to help you with the process.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 8:43 AM Ben Weidig <b...@netzgut.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've looked into the general problem, and it seems to be
> that the
> > > > > favored
> > > > > > > > new way for a project website is the Pelican
> > > static-site-generator
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > buildbot.
> > > > > > > > At least it's the one most mentioned:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * https://infra.apache.org/project-site.html
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Migrate+your+project+website+from+the+Apache+CMS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've used Jekyll in the past and now Hugo for personal stuff.
> > > > > > > > Most likely, there'll be some customizations needed, but in
> the
> > > > end,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > shouldn't matter what language is behind the SSG.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So the first step would be deciding which software to use and
> > > > > getting INFRA
> > > > > > > > involved in setting it up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Next, building a template to reflect the Tapestry design.
> > > > > > > > There's an ASF-template that could be used as a starting
> point.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've exported the Confluence content as XML to look at the
> data,
> > > > and
> > > > > it's a
> > > > > > > > single XML file with ~ 1.5 million lines...
> > > > > > > > Transferring it will be cumbersome, but hopefully, a
> converter
> > > can
> > > > > be used,
> > > > > > > > maybe something like
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> https://gist.github.com/grugnog/2e6ee420707a8196951956cf4dbf6e91
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Another critical point is a stable URL structure, so Google
> will
> > > > > still have
> > > > > > > > the same content with the same URL in its index.
> > > > > > > > Hopefully, 301 rewrites can be done with htaccess files.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll check out content conversion and import into a SSG in
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > week
> > > > > > > > of January.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers and a happy new year!
> > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 5:02 PM Gavin McDonald <
> > > > gmcdon...@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Although the ticket quoted below was fixed, we still need
> to
> > > move
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > away
> > > > > > > > > from using the CMS - and that means migrating your job off
> of
> > > the
> > > > > CMS
> > > > > > > > Slave
> > > > > > > > > at ci.apache.org, it means migrating you away from using
> > > > > tapestry.conf
> > > > > > > > > file and it means moving you away from using built in CMS
> > > tooling
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > build_external.pl .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have created a new ticket
> > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22684
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do not ignore this email or the jira ticket, the CMS WILL
> BE
> > > > > TURNED OFF
> > > > > > > > > January 31st so you must act now, so testing and
> enhancements
> > > can
> > > > > happen.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gav...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2021/09/16 15:56:50 Gavin McDonald wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As you should be aware by now, the CMS is deprecated and
> > > going
> > > > > away.
> > > > > > > > > > You are one of the last remaining projects still using
> the
> > > CMS
> > > > > (in part
> > > > > > > > > anyway)
> > > > > > > > > > to publish your website.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > An Infra ticket (
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22208)
> > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > opened as
> > > > > > > > > > your site no longer publishes. We will not be 'fixing'
> the
> > > > > problem that
> > > > > > > > > currently exists
> > > > > > > > > > but rather we want to get you off of the CMS and
> publishing
> > > > > using a
> > > > > > > > > different method.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please liaise on the existing ticket above and we'll
> help get
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gavin McDonald (ASF Infra)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
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