I have no objections to using "gremlin" since it sounds like we have ways
to make sure users don't break in unclear ways. I'll give others a chance
to respond and barring no additional discussion will get The Baptist added
to the org in npm. i guess we can proceed to the next step from there.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:55 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra <jorgebaygon...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Reusing the existing package name while adding a deprecation message,
> sounds good to me then.
>
> Keep in mind we will be releasing both for 3.2.x and 3.3.x branches, so any
> deprecation message should be for versions lower than 3.2.
>
> If all agree, the next step will be to add jbmusso to tinkerpop org on npm
> and add him to the "developers" team. I can't do it, as I'm not an "owner"
> of the organization.
> Once you have the proper access rights, you should grant write access to
> package "tinkerpop:developers".
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste Musso <jbmu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > npm (and yarn) now freeze versions aggressively in package.json and
> > package-lock.json or yarn.lock, respectively. Publishing a new version on
> > the v3.y.z (v.3.3.2) shouldn't be a concern for most users since,
> luckily,
> > I never published past the 2.y.z major version on npm.
> >
> > What I'm thinking is that we could add a deprecation message that users
> > will see when installing all releases prior to using v3.3.2 when it's
> > published. https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/deprecate should be helpful.
> >
> > I don't think that will break anything unless people added "gremlin": "*"
> > in their package.json, but I guess very few people did that. What will
> > break is example in live docs, such as Microsoft Azure CosmosDB, where
> > installation requirements are "npm install gremlin": this will install
> > v3.3.2, and break things. The quick fix for them is to update their doc
> to
> > "npm install gremlin@v2" - that should work.
> >
> > I also need to deprecate "gremlin-javascript" on npm (that lib still gets
> > downloaded!), since I was pushing using this name before I was donated
> the
> > "gremlin" package name (I think 2-3 years ago). That'll be the second
> time
> > this package name is transferred, actually - back in the days, it was a
> > Node.js/JVM bridge using node-java.
> >
> > Another option is to publish under "@tinkerpop/gremlin", but I think it's
> > best if we can force people to no longer use the current "gremlin"
> package,
> > and use the official GLV, also under that same name. Having many package
> > names will add a lot of confusion in the next month/years, and I think
> it's
> > best to risk breaking few things in the short term rather than adding *a
> > lot* of confusion on the long term.
> >
> > Jean-Baptiste
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It stinks that we would break 3K+ downloads. I don't know the npm
> > > environment too well. Can a break be expected for people? The current
> > > version of https://www.npmjs.com/package/gremlin is at 2.6.0 and we
> > would
> > > publish at 3.x which people could expect as a breaking change, no?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra <
> > > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Now that the JavaScript GLV has been merged, it will be nice to have
> an
> > > > official pre-release (RC / beta) on the npm package manager as soon
> as
> > > > possible to allow users to start giving it a try.
> > > >
> > > > The package name identifier in the package.json is currently
> > > > gremlin-javascript <https://www.npmjs.com/package/gremlin-javascript
> >,
> > > > which is under the tinkerpop organization created by Stephen:
> > > > https://www.npmjs.com/org/tinkerpop
> > > > npm orgs are a nice feature as it let's you handle the team members
> > that
> > > > can be collaborators (publish versions).
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Baptiste offered
> > > > <https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/pull/695#issuecomment-358482362
> >
> > to
> > > > transfer ownership of gremlin <https://www.npmjs.com/package/gremlin
> >
> > > > package to TinkerPop, so we can publish the GLV under that package
> > name.
> > > My
> > > > only concern would be to break the functionality for current users,
> as
> > > the
> > > > existent package has 3K downloads per month. I would prefer to
> include
> > a
> > > > message on the gremlin package explaining the difference with
> > > > gremlin-javascript (or recommending the GLV for future development),
> > but
> > > I
> > > > don't feel strongly either way.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Jorge
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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