Then don’t. I simply requested Stephen to add my original comments to the ASF Board Report for October 2021.
Marko. > On Oct 3, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Joshua Shinavier <j...@fortytwo.net> wrote: > > I don't care to continue such a nasty conversation on a public list. > > Josh > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:50 AM Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com > <mailto:okramma...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Josh — if you are going to come onto this project, put your name on it, >> then you need to do something. You promised me for 2 years that you would >> work on TInkerPop4. You haven’t. You lied. I have no respect for liars. >> That is my problem with you. You are ineffectual at best, two-faced at >> worst. You want people to respect you with your accolades, but you don’t do >> anything to earn said accolades. People who seek the respect of others are >> not leaders, they are weak souls who will, when the time is right, do what >> is best for them. >> >> Marko. >> >> >> >>> On Oct 3, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Joshua Shinavier <j...@fortytwo.net> wrote: >>> >>> Marko, why you are so concerned with what I am doing or not doing is >> beyond >>> me. Likewise, you make vague accusations against Stephen on this list, >>> before calling him a "shining star"? How "nepotism", exactly? I commented >>> earlier that you had "self-cancelled" because with all of this behavior, >>> you seemed to be daring the rest of the world to take offense / get >> annoyed >>> / shut you out. I saw your edgy Twitter posts as an exercise in free >>> speech, and I was against your removal from the PMC as you well know. Bad >>> things were bound to happen, though; you are making an ass of yourself in >>> every public forum, and obviously that does not reflect well on you. If >> you >>> want others to respect you and follow you, quit trying to tear others >> down, >>> and get back to producing. I don't understand your rage against Amazon, >> but >>> your ideas around the mm-ADT "economic machine" seemed good -- why not >>> execute on them. >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:59 AM Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com >> <mailto:okramma...@gmail.com <mailto:okramma...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> This looks good, though I think we should add some items regarding >> project >>>> leadership. >>>> >>>> First off, Tibco has been a TinkerPop-enabled graph database for over 5 >>>> years now. So that is nothing new. >>>> >>>> Next, we should alert the Apache Board about the lack of contributions >> by >>>> recently elected PMC members. More generally, why is the project >> removing >>>> contributing members and replacing them with non-contributing members? I >>>> bring up Josh in particular. Of his performance of late, I’ve noted a >>>> single "VOTE +1” for a .toString() pull request by Stephen. Given the >>>> response time to the PR, there wasn’t even sufficient time for Josh to >> have >>>> compiled and tested the PR. This goes counter to what Stephen was >> arguing >>>> to me (Marko) earlier regarding why the PMC members were elected — they >> are >>>> needed to test the code, not necessarily contribute >> code/documentation/blog >>>> posts/academic articles/etc. So… what is the truth here? What’s going on >>>> with the leadership of this project? I believe this project is losing >> the >>>> meritocracy that Apache so holds dear for "nepotism" (not genetic >> nepotism, >>>> but through corporate affiliation). However, if “nepotism" is the >> direction >>>> Apache is going, then I think this should be made clear as it’s >> fraudulent >>>> to be underhanded about the reasoning behind the decisions being made >> for >>>> the project. Finally, this might also be the reasoning why I was removed >>>> from the project given my lack of support for Amazon in the OSS >> community >>>> [1]. >>>> >>>> Thank you Stephen for your efforts on TinkerPop. You are a shining star. >>>> >>>> Marko. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> >> https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine >> >> <https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine> >>>> < >>>> >> https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine >> >> <https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine> >> < >> https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine >> >> <https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine> >>>> >>>> [slides 1-37] >>>> - Please note that these slides are no longer indexed by Google. >>>> All other project slides/articles etc. are. >>>> - Unfortunate that large companies would be threatened by such >>>> small individuals. Is this what is happening with TinkerPop? >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:spmalle...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here is the attached draft of our board report for this quarter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> ## Description: >>>>> Apache TinkerPop is a graph computing framework for both graph >> databases >>>>> (OLTP) and graph analytic systems (OLAP). >>>>> >>>>> ## Activity: >>>>> TinkerPop released 3.4.12 and 3.5.1 on July 19, 2021. These releases >>>> came a >>>>> bit earlier than expected to address a bug implementers had encountered >>>> in >>>>> 3.5.0. While the bug had a relatively simple workaround and did not >>>>> particularly affect end users, there was consensus in the community to >>>>> release sooner than later. These changes did include some minor >>>> enhancements >>>>> as well. After 3.5.1 released, it was announced that JanusGraph became >>>> the >>>>> first graph provider to support the 3.5.x release line. >>>>> >>>>> Development on 3.4.13, 3.5.2 and 3.6.0 is all well underway and it >> would >>>> be >>>>> likely that we'd see releases of at least 3.4.13 and 3.5.2 this year. >> It >>>> is >>>>> also likely that we will be reaching the end of the 3.4.x line of >>>>> maintenance. >>>>> >>>>> We've recently become aware of two new TinkerPop implementations in the >>>>> Tibco Graph Database[1] and ArcadeDB[2]. That brings the total number >> of >>>>> graph systems supporting TinkerPop to thirty. >>>>> >>>>> We are aware that our committer growth has been slow and are >> considering >>>>> ideas to improve our ability to attract and retain folks. >>>>> >>>>> ## Issues: >>>>> There are no issues requiring board attention at this time. >>>>> >>>>> ## Releases: >>>>> - 3.4.12 (July 19, 2021) >>>>> - 3.5.1 (July 19, 2021) >>>>> >>>>> ## PMC/Committer: >>>>> - Last PMC addition was Kelvin Lawrence/Josh Shinavier - June 2021 >>>>> - Last committer addition was Øyvind Sæbø - March 2021 >>>>> >>>>> ## Links >>>>> [1] https://www.tibco.com/products/tibco-graph-database/ >>>>> [2] https://arcadedb.com/
