> This looks good, though I think we should add some items regarding project leadership.
I think that we (folks on this list) acknowledge as a group that TinkerPop committer growth has not been good which is why I added it to this report. I can't say however that there is a similar agreement on the varied points you've made on this topic. The ASF is uninterested in how much or little anyone contributes, which is thinking you have always been at odds with and I'm afraid I really don't have any fresh words to explain it. > First off, Tibco has been a TinkerPop-enabled graph database for over 5 years now. So that is nothing new. As best I can tell it looks like it was somewhere in 2019 that they added Gremlin support. In any case, it was a mistake then to call it "new" in the report. I honestly don't ever remember coming across that before. I'll change it to: We've recently become aware that the Tibco Graph Database[1] implemented TinkerPop support a couple of years ago and that there is a new implementation of TinkerPop with ArcadeDB[2] that was recently announced. That brings the total number of graph systems supporting TinkerPop to thirty. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Description: Apache TinkerPop is a graph computing framework for both graph databases (OLTP) and graph analytic systems (OLAP). ## Activity: TinkerPop released 3.4.12 and 3.5.1 on July 19, 2021. These releases came a bit earlier than expected to address a bug implementers had encountered in 3.5.0. While the bug had a relatively simple workaround and did not particularly affect end users, there was consensus in the community to release sooner than later. These changes did include some minor enhancements as well. After 3.5.1 released, it was announced that JanusGraph became the first graph provider to support the 3.5.x release line. Development on 3.4.13, 3.5.2 and 3.6.0 is all well underway and it would be likely that we'd see releases of at least 3.4.13 and 3.5.2 this year. It is also likely that we will be reaching the end of the 3.4.x line of maintenance. We've recently become aware of two new TinkerPop implementations in the Tibco Graph Database[1] and ArcadeDB[2]. That brings the total number of graph systems supporting TinkerPop to thirty. We've recently become aware that the Tibco Graph Database[1] implemented TinkerPop support a couple of years ago and that there is a new implementation of TinkerPop with ArcadeDB[2] that was recently announced. That brings the total number of graph systems supporting TinkerPop to thirty. ## Issues: There are no issues requiring board attention at this time. ## Releases: - 3.4.12 (July 19, 2021) - 3.5.1 (July 19, 2021) ## PMC/Committer: - Last PMC addition was Kelvin Lawrence/Josh Shinavier - June 2021 - Last committer addition was Øyvind Sæbø - March 2021 ## Links [1] https://www.tibco.com/products/tibco-graph-database/ [2] https://arcadedb.com/ On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 10:59 AM Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > This looks good, though I think we should add some items regarding project > leadership. > > First off, Tibco has been a TinkerPop-enabled graph database for over 5 > years now. So that is nothing new. > > Next, we should alert the Apache Board about the lack of contributions by > recently elected PMC members. More generally, why is the project removing > contributing members and replacing them with non-contributing members? I > bring up Josh in particular. Of his performance of late, I’ve noted a > single "VOTE +1” for a .toString() pull request by Stephen. Given the > response time to the PR, there wasn’t even sufficient time for Josh to have > compiled and tested the PR. This goes counter to what Stephen was arguing > to me (Marko) earlier regarding why the PMC members were elected — they are > needed to test the code, not necessarily contribute code/documentation/blog > posts/academic articles/etc. So… what is the truth here? What’s going on > with the leadership of this project? I believe this project is losing the > meritocracy that Apache so holds dear for "nepotism" (not genetic nepotism, > but through corporate affiliation). However, if “nepotism" is the direction > Apache is going, then I think this should be made clear as it’s fraudulent > to be underhanded about the reasoning behind the decisions being made for > the project. Finally, this might also be the reasoning why I was removed > from the project given my lack of support for Amazon in the OSS community > [1]. > > Thank you Stephen for your efforts on TinkerPop. You are a shining star. > > Marko. > > [1] > https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine > < > https://www.slideshare.net/slidarko/mmadt-a-virtual-machinean-economic-machine> > [slides 1-37] > - Please note that these slides are no longer indexed by Google. > All other project slides/articles etc. are. > - Unfortunate that large companies would be threatened by such > small individuals. Is this what is happening with TinkerPop? > > > > On Oct 1, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Here is the attached draft of our board report for this quarter. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ## Description: > > Apache TinkerPop is a graph computing framework for both graph databases > > (OLTP) and graph analytic systems (OLAP). > > > > ## Activity: > > TinkerPop released 3.4.12 and 3.5.1 on July 19, 2021. These releases > came a > > bit earlier than expected to address a bug implementers had encountered > in > > 3.5.0. While the bug had a relatively simple workaround and did not > > particularly affect end users, there was consensus in the community to > > release sooner than later. These changes did include some minor > enhancements > > as well. After 3.5.1 released, it was announced that JanusGraph became > the > > first graph provider to support the 3.5.x release line. > > > > Development on 3.4.13, 3.5.2 and 3.6.0 is all well underway and it would > be > > likely that we'd see releases of at least 3.4.13 and 3.5.2 this year. It > is > > also likely that we will be reaching the end of the 3.4.x line of > > maintenance. > > > > We've recently become aware of two new TinkerPop implementations in the > > Tibco Graph Database[1] and ArcadeDB[2]. That brings the total number of > > graph systems supporting TinkerPop to thirty. > > > > We are aware that our committer growth has been slow and are considering > > ideas to improve our ability to attract and retain folks. > > > > ## Issues: > > There are no issues requiring board attention at this time. > > > > ## Releases: > > - 3.4.12 (July 19, 2021) > > - 3.5.1 (July 19, 2021) > > > > ## PMC/Committer: > > - Last PMC addition was Kelvin Lawrence/Josh Shinavier - June 2021 > > - Last committer addition was Øyvind Sæbø - March 2021 > > > > ## Links > > [1] https://www.tibco.com/products/tibco-graph-database/ > > [2] https://arcadedb.com/ > >
