On Aug 22, 2007, at 8:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Remy Maucherat wrote:
Yeah right. So to summarize, we have 3 committers who are happy campers (2 of them which don't contribute much, as far as I know), and the rest of the committers are either do not care or are unhappy. Most also want a change in the development process, and as long as there's agreement on that and it respects the ASF principles, we should be able to do that.



Bah. In neither angry nor happy.

My impression was trunk was going to be wacky new stuff which broke
existing api's and configurations with 6.0. Much like 5.0 --> 5.5.

In reality that didn't happen - we just got some comet changes. (I'm not
saying this is good or bad - it's just and observation)

While it's more fun to watch from the sidelines, I'm afraid I'll have to get involved here to point out that you are wrong about this. trunk contains an entirely new and incompatible with 6.0.x annotation processing framework which is in use in the Geronimo integration. Remy suggested and I agreed that it would not be appropriate for an api change of this magnitude to go in a 6.0.x revision. While Remy was certainly the committer most involved in applying these changes, IIRC there was some support from at least one other committer. In Geronimo we are anxiously awaiting an official tomcat release with these agreed upon api changes, so we tend to view the proposal eliminate trunk with some concern.

thanks
david jencks


Now we are in a technical debate between comet implementation between Remy and Filips "designs". This has seemed to migrate into a personal attack in
a subtle manner.

Such is life when coding. Disagreements occur, feeling are hurt and email is the worst method of communicating an emotional topic since words are
amplified. (Sometime on purpose, other times by accident).

My hope is this too shall pass and all is good again.

Personally - I am not very clueful on comet other than the basics. I'd
love to get the clue - but I can't find and work related projects to
justify the time. That leaves me out in the cold due to this conversation. I feel any vote by me would be a bad vote because of my ignorance on the
topic. It seems others are in the same situation.

All that being said - I'd love to see Remy and Filip agree on comet and
remove trunk. It would be a shame to see either leave due to these
disputes.


-Tim
(Away for training in Boston this week (Kendall Square))



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