So was there a final conclusion? 
I get it that it makes sense to create a stabilisation branch shortly before 
really rolling a release (kind fo RC builds). This is basically a release 
branching attempt.
But as we lack of a ReleaseManager who _reviews_ and pulls over all those 
changes on a daily basis I thin there is just no justification for this 
development branch thingy.

Any objections to merge development into master?

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 31.01.2015 um 13:36 schrieb Thiago Veronezi <[email protected]>:
> 
> Oh... I see. I'm not talking about feature implementation. I'm talking
> about the release process and release branches.
> I don't like a branch per feature either. :) We don't need that.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> If you push it to github or attach it as patch you will get help.
>> That was also the way it used to be with SVN. And it would even be ok to
>> grant an ASF colleague rights to your github repo or pull a fix from him.
>> 
>> Of course it would be even better if we could have such branches in a
>> 'sandbox' repo on ASF hardware. But we don't have those YET... :)
>> 
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, 31 January 2015, 13:28, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> No help yes. That is what we should target anyway.
>>> 
>>> And removing a remote temp branch is not bad.
>>> 
>>> Mark got a good proposal with staging mirrors of main asf repos.
>>> 
>>> Le 31 janv. 2015 13:22, "Thiago Veronezi" <[email protected]>
>>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> @Romain: if we are talking about temp remote branches, it implies later
>>>> removal of this branch [bad] otherwise we end up with dead branches
>> [bad].
>>>> If we are talking about local or remote branches that can be used by
>> only
>>>> one person, it implies no help from the other developers [bad].
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> <[email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> @Thiago: not exactly since we do it in temp branches which could even
>>> be
>>>>> private
>>>>> Le 31 janv. 2015 10:32, "Mark Struberg"
>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The "Apache Way” is not a set of rules.  The Apache Way
>>> is
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> community over code.  That’s it.  Nothing else.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alan, it is important but all that comes only _after_ some very
>>> basic
>>>>>> legal rules we have to follow.
>>>>>> Those are not many, but they exist. E.g. if a PMC doesn't
>>> like to
>>>> follow
>>>>>> the license and marks guidelines then it will simply get shut
>>> down by
>>>>>> board. And I'm glad that we don't have such issues at
>>> TomEE.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To understand the importance of code provenance you just need to
>>> look
>>>> at
>>>>>> the current subpoena we have to handle:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_subpoenaed1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it is really _very_ important for the foundation to have a
>>> very good
>>>>>> SCM history which can stand the proof of court!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>> strub
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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