done!
Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Tomitriber <http://www.tomitribe.com> 2015-08-01 23:35 GMT+02:00 Alex Gout <agg...@gmail.com>: > perfect. Thx! > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:31 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Should be able - if it can wait on monday cause im on the phone ATM. Just > > comment it for now to say your work on it. > > Le 1 août 2015 22:38, "Alex Gout" <agg...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > Thanks Romain. Are you able to assign 1618 to me? Or any other one you > > > think I could pick up > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < > rmannibu...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Sure. Take a task. One thing I love in openejb is speaking of feature > > and > > > > not technology first. Makes clearly more added value to end users. > > > > > > > > Grab a task, do it the best you can and you will always get support > for > > > it > > > > if you need :). > > > > Le 1 août 2015 21:36, "Alex Gout" <agg...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to contribute to (what I thought was) a nice project. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:25 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ok so let speak on real use cases for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > I didnt speak of anything theorical just than mocking means > missing > > > > sthg > > > > > > and with tomee you never need it so better to not start by it. > > > > > > Le 1 août 2015 21:07, "Alex Gout" <agg...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your comment. However, I'm still not certain what > type > > > of > > > > > > > testing you are talking about. For integration test, you are > > > > absolutely > > > > > > > right. However, integration tests only don't cut it if you want > > to > > > > > really > > > > > > > test your product and its components. You can find numerous > sites > > > > where > > > > > > you > > > > > > > can read about the importance of unit tests. > > > > > > > You don't always need mocks or stubs when writing unit tests, > but > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > they will break a dependency you're not interested in for the > > test > > > at > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > and you just want to mock or stub expected behaviour of that > > > > > dependency, > > > > > > > UNLIKE you would do in an integration test which I think is > your > > > main > > > > > > > concern. > > > > > > > I don't have an example at the moment, I was just curious > > because I > > > > > don't > > > > > > > see many unit tests using mocks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:28 AM Romain Manni-Bucau < > > > > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dont want to debate here but mocking internals is not really > > > > testing > > > > > - > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is ok for external systems cause you dont have the choice > most > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you want to mock? Maybe it would be easier this way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 1 août 2015 17:11, "Alex Gout" <agg...@gmail.com> a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can only assume you're talking about integration testing > in > > > > which > > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > you shouldn't use mocks (maybe stubs in some cases for > > example > > > > when > > > > > > > > relying > > > > > > > > > on 3rd party services). However, for solid unit testing > using > > > > mocks > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > avoidable. > > > > > > > > > Your side note illustrates why unit tests are so important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:53 AM Romain Manni-Bucau < > > > > > > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 1 août 2015 03:30, "Alex Gout" <agg...@gmail.com> a > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I created JIRA TOMEE-1618. Can someone check and assign > > to > > > me > > > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also a question.. I don't see many unit tests that use > > > mocks, > > > > > > only > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > that use easymock. Is it a problem to introduce > Mockito? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why mocking? Just really test :p. Whell behind the joke > the > > > > > reality > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > mocked test doesnt gives you any guarantee so for me it > is > > > like > > > > > not > > > > > > > > testing > > > > > > > > > > anything - sadly speaking from experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Side note: arquillian and mvn modules can have additional > > > > tests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
