Ok,

iCLA is all set as everyone is asf committer. I guess the only thing
missing is the IP paperwork. Jean-Louis, is there anything I can do to help
us get this boring stuff ready?

[]s,
Thiago.


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid>
wrote:

> Yes, all the committers on those projects of course need to have an iCLA
> on file.
> And the PMC has to do an IP clearance. Once that's done it's fine to
> directly import it over here.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> PS: at OWB it was a bit different: with Meecrowave it was basically moving
> parts which existed in OWB since the incubation in 2008 (OWB bundled with
> tomcat) to an own project because it has a different lifecycle.
>
>
> > Am 13.02.2018 um 10:47 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >:
> >
> > Yes, this doesn't apply for *sub*projects. Karaf, OpenWebBeans, ... are
> > examples doing that without any issues. Also the fact the license - even
> if
> > not explicit with a LICENSE file but only headers - is asf v2 in all
> > projects helps to smooth that procedure. So public
> > donation+license+subproject = no need to go through headaches IMHO.
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> ee-8-high-performance>
> >
> > 2018-02-13 10:43 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <thi...@veronezi.org>:
> >
> >> Are you sure we don't need the incubator? I know that Tomcat has
> multiple
> >> github repositories, but they are simple mirrors of the same svn
> repository
> >> on different branches (tc7, tc8 etc).
> >>
> >> From https://incubator.apache.org/faq.html I get this...
> >>
> >> "
> >> 1.4. Someone has proposed that their code/project be donated to project
> X
> >> within the ASF for continued development. What do we need to do to
> accept
> >> the code?
> >>
> >> The Incubator will only accept code for incubation if a PMC has voted to
> >> accept it. So when a proposal for the donation of code occurs, the
> project
> >> in question should discuss the proposal (usually on their public mailing
> >> lists!), leading to a decision by that project’s PMC on whether or not
> to
> >> sponsor the code (and potentially the project surrounding it). If the
> PMC
> >> agrees, then the incubator can be approached, and the code accepted for
> >> incubation. The grant needs to be recorded by following the procedure
> >> outlined at the IP Clearance forms
> >> <https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/>.
> >>
> >> "
> >>
> >> We passed the point of vote. The code has been accepted. Once the IP
> forms
> >> are formalized, we may start the incubation process.
> >>
> >> []s,
> >> Thiago.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> side note: we don't need to go through asf@incubator here, the vote
> >> passed
> >>> and the project can be imported as soon as the repos are created by
> >> infra.
> >>> The only thing to take care (and a lot) is to make clear tomitribe
> gives
> >>> (donates) this code to asf. A public message on a list is generally
> good
> >>> and a commit done by a tomitribe member are enough in general.
> >>>
> >>> In other words: let just that happen :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> >>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/
> >>> rmannibucau> |
> >>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> >>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> >>> ee-8-high-performance>
> >>>
> >>> 2018-02-13 10:27 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <thi...@veronezi.org>:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, looking at the steps now. I will ping you later for more
> guidance.
> >>> At
> >>>> first glance, It looks like a very complex process. It's a good
> >> learning
> >>>> opportunity.
> >>>> Thanks man.
> >>>>
> >>>> []s,
> >>>> Thiago
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'll create the tickets for infra so we have the repos ready.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can you look at the other steps?
> >>>>> I'm not very familiar with the steps in case of code donation. So
> >> I'll
> >>>> need
> >>>>> to document myself as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:10, "Thiago Veronezi" <thi...@veronezi.org> a
> >>> écrit
> >>>> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Awesome!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks guys.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Jean-Louis for sort this out that fast! Count me in for the
> >>>>>> incubator work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> []s,
> >>>>>> Thiago.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey Thiago.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have done all the change and prepared the donation. It needs
> >> some
> >>>>>>> paperwork for IP clearance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have followed the option where we have each in its own repo
> >>> instead
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> the current TomEE repo. It appeared to be more flexible to me bit
> >>>> happy
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> change if the community thinks it's better.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you can help with incubator and paperwork I have the 2
> >> projects
> >>>>> ready
> >>>>>>> for review.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 13 févr. 2018 10:00, "Thiago Veronezi" <thi...@veronezi.org>
> >> a
> >>>>> écrit
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have some use for Chatterbox and I would like to contribute.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sheldon and Chatterbox are examples of awesome use of stack
> >> Java
> >>> EE
> >>>>>> JCA,
> >>>>>>>> aren't they?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What about creating a module "resource-adapters" and having
> >> these
> >>>>> guys
> >>>>>>>> there?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> >>>>>>>> <artifactId>chatterbox</artifactId>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <groupId>com.apache.tomee.rars</groupId>
> >>>>>>>> <artifactId>sheldon</artifactId>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We would have them available for download on tomee.apache.org
> >>> and
> >>>>>> maven
> >>>>>>>> central without going through yet another project
> >> configuration.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If these guys grow so much that they require to be split into
> >>> their
> >>>>> own
> >>>>>>> top
> >>>>>>>> project, we can do that later.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> []s,
> >>>>>>>> Thiago.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Mark Struberg
> >>>>>> <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1 for a new github repo and 1 per project.
> >>>>>>>>> And we still need a name for this 'aggregator'.
> >>>>>>>>> In Myfaces it was myfaces-ext-*But if you did your history
> >>>> lections
> >>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>> you would have noticed that keeping myfaces in the name was
> >>> NOT a
> >>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>> idea.While CODI (myfaces-ext-cdi) did also run perfectly fine
> >>> on
> >>>>>>> Mojarra
> >>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>> had a really huge acceptance problem. This later lead us to
> >>> join
> >>>>>> forces
> >>>>>>>>> with Seam and merge together to Apache DeltaSpike - just to
> >>>> remove
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>> doubt that it will only run with MyFaces.
> >>>>>>>>> Now if we would name it tomee-sheldon then it would most
> >> likely
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>> exactly
> >>>>>>>>> the same.
> >>>>>>>>> So please propose a good name which makes it clear that this
> >>> does
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> belong to TomEE the app server but is just a modular part
> >> which
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> portable. Or go the other route: make it really TomEE
> >> specific.
> >>>> In
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>> case
> >>>>>>>>> we must be sure which route we want to take.
> >>>>>>>>> LieGrue,strub
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    On Monday, 5 February 2018, 15:06:23 CET, Romain
> >>> Manni-Bucau
> >>>> <
> >>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> One per project
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And no need of tomee in the name ;)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> we already have tomee.git so we can get sheldon.git and
> >>>>>> chatterbox.git
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm fine either way, do we want one per
> >> sub-project/sub-tool
> >>> or
> >>>>> one
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> everything inside?
> >>>>>>>>>> If we go this path I'm tempted to say, one per
> >> contribution.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That would make
> >>>>>>>>>> tomee git repo
> >>>>>>>>>> tomee-sheldon git repo
> >>>>>>>>>> tomee-chatterbox git repo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> just plain new git repos IMHO
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> >>>>> https://github.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau> |
> >>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
> >> Book
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-
> >>>>>>>>>>> ee-8-high-performance>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-02-05 14:21 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In terms of source code, do we want something like this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tomee/ (the main git project)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ..tomee-server/ --> no idea what name would be the best
> >>>> from
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>> user
> >>>>>>>>>>>> perspective
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ..sheldon/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ..chatterbox/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Gallimore <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent. Happy to help with the process in any way
> >> I
> >>>> can.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like David is busy, so I'll close the VOTE
> >> for
> >>>> him
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> proceed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The VOTE passes with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1: John D. Ament, Jonathan Gallimore, Mark
> >> Struberg,
> >>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>>>> Gumbrecht,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blevins and Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No 0 and no -1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-binding +1: Matthew Broadhead, Elder Moraes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for voting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:52 AM, John D. Ament <
> >>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you tally?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an internal ASF use case for chatterbox
> >> that
> >>>> I'd
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> figure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the next steps on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM David Blevins <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> david.blev...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... will tally shortly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:24 PM, David Blevins <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> david.blev...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let’s put this up for a vote.  Proposal:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we accept the code donations of
> >> Sheldon
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> Chatterbox
> >>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache TomEE project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox
> >> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They’ll be named Apache Sheldon and Apache
> >>>>> Chatterbox
> >>>>>>>>>>>> respectively.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven groupid and java packages up for
> >>> discussion.
> >>>>> (I
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preference)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All votes welcome:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1: Let’s do this!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0: I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm
> >>> okay
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0: I won't get in the way, but I'd rather we
> >>>>> didn't
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1: I really don't like this, because [insert
> >>>>> reason]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll leave this up for a week so people have
> >>> time
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> vote.
> >>>>>>>>>> All
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> votes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are welcome from anyone.  The more votes the
> >>>> better.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Blevins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins <
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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