> It's really just meant to be a suggestion.

Right, I'm just worried about the tendency of codified suggestions to
become rules/requirements (or be wielded as such) later on.

- Rawlin

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 1:06 PM ocket 8888 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > requiring
>
> I would never
>
> It's really just meant to be a suggestion. If that seems like it would
> sound like a requirement, we shouldn't put it in. That wasn't the intention.
>
> I really don't feel strongly about this, personally. It's just something
> that came up in the WG meeting and I volunteered to talk about it on the
> list.
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:56 AM Rawlin Peters <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think we should really make any kind of language suggestions
> > in the project. While I agree Python should be considered for scripts
> > that are too complex for Bash, there may be other reasons where it
> > would make more sense for it to be written in Go or some other
> > compiled language. For instance, `db/admin.pl` was replaced with Go
> > instead of Python because we didn't want to add internet dependencies
> > during installation and wanted a single static binary to include in
> > the rpm. For those reasons, Go was the best tool for the job, and we
> > should always try to use the best tool for the job rather than
> > requiring everyone to use a specific tool.
> >
> > - Rawlin
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:50 AM ocket 8888 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What would that be for?
> > >
> > > Not much, to be honest. Just a suggestion. I also see I didn't mention
> > this
> > > originally, but the suggestion is also intended to specifically mention
> > > Python as a good choice for when rewriting old scripts from Perl.
> > >
> > > > From the homepage of the project, you can see what languages are
> > > leveraged and realize that by picking something else you run the risk of
> > > having your PR rejected for unmaintainability
> > >
> > > Sort of. If you looked a month ago using that decision-making process
> > you'd
> > > maybe conclude you should write your scripts in Perl. If you look today,
> > > you'll see:
> > > -
> > > - * Go 55.3% <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=go>
> > > - * <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=go>JavaScript
> > 12.2%
> > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=javascript>
> > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=java>
> > > - * Java 9.0% <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=java>
> > > - * HTML 7.2% <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=html>
> > > - <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=typescript>*
> > TypeScript
> > > 4.3% <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=typescript>
> > > - <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=shell>* Shell 3.4%
> > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=shell>
> > > * Other 8.6%
> > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=shell>
> > >
> > > So you wouldn't see Python anywhere on that list
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:35 AM Gray, Jonathan
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What would that be for?  The project should accept useful additions in
> > any
> > > > maintainable language already.  From the homepage of the project, you
> > can
> > > > see what languages are leveraged and realize that by picking something
> > else
> > > > you run the risk of having your PR rejected for unmaintainability.  In
> > > > those cases, sharing links to the scripts are still useful on the
> > mailing
> > > > lists, but simply wouldn't be merged.
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan G
> > > >
> > > > On 4/13/21, 11:16 AM, "ocket 8888" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     I was thinking about adding a section to CONTRIBUTING.md and/or the
> > > >     development docs that suggests Python as the language to use for
> > > > scripts
> > > >     that are too complex for bash but don't need the performance
> > afforded
> > > > by a
> > > >     compiled language - any objections?
> > > >
> > > >
> >

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