I suppose let's just build up a library of scripts (many that are converted from perl) written in python and then it should be pretty obvious what the preference is but won't preclude people from taking a different route that may suit their needs better.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 1:23 PM Rawlin Peters <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's really just meant to be a suggestion. > > Right, I'm just worried about the tendency of codified suggestions to > become rules/requirements (or be wielded as such) later on. > > - Rawlin > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 1:06 PM ocket 8888 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > requiring > > > > I would never > > > > It's really just meant to be a suggestion. If that seems like it would > > sound like a requirement, we shouldn't put it in. That wasn't the > intention. > > > > I really don't feel strongly about this, personally. It's just something > > that came up in the WG meeting and I volunteered to talk about it on the > > list. > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:56 AM Rawlin Peters <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't think we should really make any kind of language suggestions > > > in the project. While I agree Python should be considered for scripts > > > that are too complex for Bash, there may be other reasons where it > > > would make more sense for it to be written in Go or some other > > > compiled language. For instance, `db/admin.pl` was replaced with Go > > > instead of Python because we didn't want to add internet dependencies > > > during installation and wanted a single static binary to include in > > > the rpm. For those reasons, Go was the best tool for the job, and we > > > should always try to use the best tool for the job rather than > > > requiring everyone to use a specific tool. > > > > > > - Rawlin > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:50 AM ocket 8888 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > What would that be for? > > > > > > > > Not much, to be honest. Just a suggestion. I also see I didn't > mention > > > this > > > > originally, but the suggestion is also intended to specifically > mention > > > > Python as a good choice for when rewriting old scripts from Perl. > > > > > > > > > From the homepage of the project, you can see what languages are > > > > leveraged and realize that by picking something else you run the > risk of > > > > having your PR rejected for unmaintainability > > > > > > > > Sort of. If you looked a month ago using that decision-making process > > > you'd > > > > maybe conclude you should write your scripts in Perl. If you look > today, > > > > you'll see: > > > > - > > > > - * Go 55.3% <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=go> > > > > - * <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=go>JavaScript > > > 12.2% > > > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=javascript> > > > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=java> > > > > - * Java 9.0% < > https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=java> > > > > - * HTML 7.2% < > https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=html> > > > > - <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=typescript>* > > > TypeScript > > > > 4.3% <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=typescript> > > > > - <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=shell>* Shell > 3.4% > > > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=shell> > > > > * Other 8.6% > > > > <https://github.com/apache/trafficcontrol/search?l=shell> > > > > > > > > So you wouldn't see Python anywhere on that list > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:35 AM Gray, Jonathan > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What would that be for? The project should accept useful > additions in > > > any > > > > > maintainable language already. From the homepage of the project, > you > > > can > > > > > see what languages are leveraged and realize that by picking > something > > > else > > > > > you run the risk of having your PR rejected for > unmaintainability. In > > > > > those cases, sharing links to the scripts are still useful on the > > > mailing > > > > > lists, but simply wouldn't be merged. > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan G > > > > > > > > > > On 4/13/21, 11:16 AM, "ocket 8888" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking about adding a section to CONTRIBUTING.md > and/or the > > > > > development docs that suggests Python as the language to use > for > > > > > scripts > > > > > that are too complex for bash but don't need the performance > > > afforded > > > > > by a > > > > > compiled language - any objections? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
