Hi All, @Dave: thank you for updating [1].
Please read [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html as it might give some indications to what is required. As I pointed out at general@ incubator.a.o. we have several lists ([1], [3], [4],regarding our (privileged) contributors. These need to be in sync to eliminate potential confusion. And the graduation document states that the status of the project on [5] must be up to date (especially with respect to the privileged contributors). [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html [3] http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?podling=trafodion [4] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/trafodion []5] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Dave Birdsall <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > Yes, I've checked that the list of PPMC members on [1] is correct. > > What updates do you think should be made on [2]? I don't see a list of > PPMC members there. On the left hand side there is a "Podling PMC (PPMC)" > link under the heading "Podling Guides" but that's a link to general Apache > information about PPMCs in general, so I assume you're not referring to > that? The "News" section on the right hand side seems correct. Under > "Project Info" on the right hand side there is a link, "Contributor Guide, > list of contributors and committers": perhaps this is the link you're > referring to? That link takes you to the Trafodion Contributor Guide, and > on the left hand margin of that page is a link "Contributors" which takes > us back to [1]. > > Perhaps it would be better if the "Contributor Guide, list of contributors > and committers" link on [2] were broken into two links, one for the > Contributor Guide, and the other labelled "Contributors, Committers and > PPMC members", and have the latter point back to [2]. > > Let me know what you think, > > Dave > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/ confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > Hi all, > > Is the list of PPMC Members in https://cwiki.apache.org/ > confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors correct? > > If so, the page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html > should be updated too. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > OFBiz based solutions & services > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Dave Birdsall <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Done! You might want to review it to make sure I did it correctly. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:07 PM > > To: Dave Birdsall <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > My JIRA ID is sethjinjian > > I filed iCLA on 20/Oct, 2015 > > > > Br, > > > > Seth > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 2017年2月16日 0:25 > > To: Jin, Jian (Seth) <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > Hi Seth, > > > > I've added you. > > > > Do you have a JIRA user ID? Or a Confluence (wiki) user ID? Or an > > apache ID (you usually don't get one of these until you become a > > committer)? If so, let me know and I'll add them. > > > > Also, if you've filed an iCLA with Apache, send me the date of the > > filing and I'll add that too. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:23 PM > > To: Dave Birdsall <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > Could you help to add me in contributor list, thanks. > > > > Br, > > > > Seth > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 2017年2月15日 5:23 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > Hi, > > > > I've made a pass over the contributor list at [1]. The committer and > > PPMC information looks correct to me, except there are some committers > > that I know have changed their affiliation and e-mail contacts. If > > those folks would respond with their new info, I'll be glad to update > > it. (Separately, I will attempt to contact each of them privately.) > > > > If there are contributors on this e-mail list who are not included in > > [1] and would like to be included, please respond with your > > information and I will be glad to add it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Dave > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:28 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > I will do it later today. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zhang, Yi (Eason) [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 6:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > I'm not in the contributor list, someone can add me in? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Eason > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 05:24 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > Hi, > > > > I'll plan on spending some time this week bringing [1] up-to-date. I > > know of a few changes off the top of my head. Most of it is accurate > though. > > > > Diversity has always been the issue with this particular podling. Some > > research needs to be done to freshly assess where we are on this. > > > > Beyond that issue though I personally feel we are ready for graduation. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 7:22 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [DISCUSSION] Work towards graduation > > > > Hi all, > > > > Last time we checked whether we were ready to graduate was in > > July/August 2016. Since we started incubation we have released a > > number of times succesfully (so we can say that we have that under our > belt). > > > > Our community shows a healthy interaction on our mailing list(s) and > > through github (pull requests -947 closes, forks - 85, stars - 91, > > watch - 25, all per today) and several presentations have been made > > (ApacheCon/Apache BigData/other events). > > > > All in all, our reports (through the Incubator reports) to the board > > show a podling, where its contributors act in accordance with the ASF > > principles and is moving forward in a steady pace. > > > > And our contributors are working towards our next release.. > > > > So, I believe it is time that we start working towards graduation. One > > action we should all work at is looking at [1] and update our details > (e.g. > > affiliation, e-mail address) to reflect a current situation. > > > > A major aspect regarding graduation is diversity. This is not as much > > a point with respect to committer. But it might be perceived (by > > Incubator voters - with binding vote - as an issue when it comes down > > to the proposition of the intended PMC (after graduation). > > > > - If we feel that diversity (as it is now in the PPMC, or as it will > be > > in the future PMC) will be an issue, we should invite more from a > > different > > flock (e.g. consider report reviewers/others). > > - If we feel that we can successfully address IPMC concerns we, of > > course, have nothing to worry about. > > > > To come to an end of this posting: > > > > please share your thoughts on whether we are ready to graduate > > > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > > OFBiz based solutions & services > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > >
