HI St.Ack, All, [1] indicates that the number of (active) committers is large enough. And we see lots of activity with respect to issues. It isn't as much a question of people on the list are active or not. The privilege is for life and we can't dictate when contributors will be active. As I have stated at various occasions: 'A project can never have to many committers'. People come and go.
It is more a question of whether the PPMC is diverse enough to be regarded as independent of any outside affiliation (my experiences is that this is one of the major questions popping at graduation discussions in general @ incubator). And I believe it is as there are persons with affiliations with Esgyn, Hewlett Packard, and other companies. 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for starting up this thread Pierre. > > I'd imagine that the first question we'll run into if we go for a TLP vote > is whether all active committers are Esgyn employees? Looking at [1], how > do I interpret the list. An iCLA was filed against Trafodion? I'm > particularly interested in the non-Esgyn contributors. Some are > ex-HPE/Esgyn employees? Have there lapsed or are active still? > > Just trying to get ahead of this question when it comes up on the general. > > Thanks, > St.Ack > 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Last time we checked whether we were ready to graduate was in July/August > > 2016. Since we started incubation we have released a number of times > > succesfully (so we can say that we have that under our belt). > > > > Our community shows a healthy interaction on our mailing list(s) and > > through github (pull requests -947 closes, forks - 85, stars - 91, watch > - > > 25, all per today) and several presentations have been made > > (ApacheCon/Apache BigData/other events). > > > > All in all, our reports (through the Incubator reports) to the board > show a > > podling, where its contributors act in accordance with the ASF principles > > and is moving forward in a steady pace. > > > > And our contributors are working towards our next release.. > > > > So, I believe it is time that we start working towards graduation. One > > action we should all work at is looking at [1] and update our details > (e.g. > > affiliation, e-mail address) to reflect a current situation. > > > > A major aspect regarding graduation is diversity. This is not as much a > > point with respect to committer. But it might be perceived (by Incubator > > voters - with binding vote - as an issue when it comes down to the > > proposition of the intended PMC (after graduation). > > > > - If we feel that diversity (as it is now in the PPMC, or as it will > be > > in the future PMC) will be an issue, we should invite more from a > > different > > flock (e.g. consider report reviewers/others). > > - If we feel that we can successfully address IPMC concerns we, of > > course, have nothing to worry about. > > > > To come to an end of this posting: > > > > please share your thoughts on whether we are ready to graduate > > > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors > > > > Best regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > > OFBiz based solutions & services > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > >
