Hi Mirko, thank you very much. Unfortunately, the attachment has been stripped.
Cheers, Lars On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 10:04 AM Mirko Kämpf <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey Apache Training project team, > > here is a draft for the March '23 report. > > For fast access in directly in the mail, but also attached to this email as > a MS-Word file. > This way, I save some time, because I have to reactivate my ASF login. > > > In green italic you find the my comments / thoughts. In yellow, the facts I > can't answer. > Please have a look and let me know what you think. > > Cheers, > Mirko > > > March 2023 > > Training > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#training> > > The Training project aims to develop *procedures and *resources which can > be used for training purposes in various media formats, languages and for > various Apache and non-Apache target projects. > > Training has been incubating since 2019-02-21. > > *Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating: > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating>* > > 1. Improve the participation from community for Apache Training Project > 2. *Identify the short-, mid-, and long-term goals of the project.* > 3. *Select an approach to handle non coding / non document related taske* > 4. *Create a strategy how this projects contributes to or is supported > by other Apache projects* > 5. Create a tutorial on how the tools provided by this project can be > used to create own content > 6. Review current policies around contribution review and releases to > find a pragmatic compromise > > *Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of>* > > The Training Project needs more contribution from other Apache Projects. It > also needs feedback from other Apache Projects on the presentations and > trainings developed till now. > > *In order to improve this collaboration we suggest investigating the status > of other project’s documentation in a systematic approach, especially with > an eye on available training related material. * > > *How has the community developed since the last report? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report>* > > *Activity has remained low since the last report. We have to work on > strategies to increase the** participation and the visibility of the > project and its goals. Besides q**ueries for contributions from individual > contributors** from other Apache projects we want to show what the Apache > Training project can offer those projects**.** We should build on the > assumption that synergy and network effects can help us to increase the > community around training and skill management topics. * > > > > *How has the project developed since the last report? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report>* > > *No n**ew training **material has been provided. * > > *PR activity** continues* *on a low level** since the last report.* > > *How would you assess the podling's maturity? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity>* > > There are currently some issues with this podling that we are working to > address, we believe that the issues are not yet critical and can be turned > around from within the community but want to make the board aware of this > early on. > > - Initial setup oft he project’s structure: *Goals and strategy* > - Working towards first release: *What type of artifacts to release is > not clear, due to unclear goals and strategy.* > - Community building: *The community exists of a small number of people > but is more or less invisible, as of today.* > - Nearing graduation: *Currently, we are far away from graduation.* > > > > *When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected>* > > *May 2021* > > *Have your mentors been helpful and responsive? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive>* > > Mentors have been responsive and helpful when reached out to. > > *Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks? > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks>* > > The name search process has not yet been started, as there is still time to > do that if and when graduation draws nearer. The PPMC is actively > monitoring usage of the Podlings current name on other sites. The Podling > is not directly affiliating with any sponsors donating content and > presenting an independent image on the webpage. > > *Signed-off-by: > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#signed-off-by>* > > - (training) Craig Russell > Comments: We may need more outreach to PMCs to ask them to add material. > - (training) Christofer Dutz > Comments: > - (training) Justin Mclean > Comments: > - (training) Lars Francke > Comments: > > *IPMC/Shepherd notes: > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#ipmcshepherd-notes>* > > > > Am Do., 2. März 2023 um 21:48 Uhr schrieb Mirko Kämpf < > [email protected]>: > > > OK. I'll draft the report tomorrow. > > Cheers, > > Mirko > > > > Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 2. März 2023, > > 18:16: > > > >> Hi Mirko, > >> > >> Well, the only content I could provide, would be that we did discuss the > >> future of the project and that discussion is ongoing. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> Von: Mirko Kämpf <[email protected]> > >> Datum: Donnerstag, 2. März 2023 um 14:47 > >> An: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] How to proceed? > >> Hey, > >> > >> I am ready to contribute / to report. > >> > >> But I need some content to take over the reporting task. > >> > >> Best, > >> Mirko > >> > >> Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 2. März 2023, > >> 13:23: > >> > >> > Ok … so It’s report time again … who’s up to the challenge? > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > > >> > Von: Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> > >> > Datum: Samstag, 18. Februar 2023 um 15:08 > >> > An: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] How to proceed? > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Was offline for a day or two because of email-issues … but catching up > >> > right now. > >> > > >> > Well for me the goal was to provide the infrastructure so it’s easy to > >> > create training material in a collaborative fashion. But the goal of the > >> > project itself I always considered to become a resource to go to, if you > >> > need training material for Apache projects. That’s also why every Apache > >> > committer generally has commit rights. The idea was that this allows > >> > everyone to work on their material. > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > From: Mirko Kämpf <[email protected]> > >> > Date: Friday, 17. February 2023 at 12:20 > >> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] How to proceed? > >> > Hi Christofer, > >> > > >> > I am not sure if the goals of the project are clear to the contributors > >> and > >> > potential new contributors. > >> > > >> > From time to time I look into this project but I found it hard to > >> > understand a pattern. Because all training material > >> > about other Apache projects requires active knowledge about that > >> project - > >> > but maybe the experts in those projects > >> > are not always keen on writing training content. Hence, I think it is > >> > important to get linked to all those active Apache projects, > >> > and focus here in this particular project on "the Apache way of doing > >> > trainings and materials" --- maybe I am a bit late to the party > >> > and this has been discussed in the past. > >> > > >> > I think, opening towards non coders and linking people from multiple > >> > projects could bring Apache Training to the next level. > >> > Has this been done already in the past? > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Mirko > >> > > >> > > >> > Am Mi., 15. Feb. 2023 um 13:21 Uhr schrieb Christofer Dutz < > >> > [email protected]>: > >> > > >> > > Hi all, > >> > > > >> > > So, we’ve missed another report. I’m not really happy with this state. > >> > > So, I would like to discuss with you, if we should give up Training or > >> > > what you folks think we should do? > >> > > > >> > > I personally am not happy with the way it’s currently running and > >> would > >> > be > >> > > in favor for giving it up. > >> > > > >> > > Chris > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf > >> > Müchelner Str. 23 > >> > 06259 Frankleben > >> > > >> > > > > -- > > Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf > Müchelner Str. 23 > 06259 Frankleben
