Hi Mirko,

thank you. Unfortunately "one of us" has to submit the report.
I'm on holiday without much time for laptop work until Friday.
Chris, do you have time to move the report over?

Cheers,
Lars

On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 11:33 AM Mirko Kämpf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am back and the August report is covered.
>
> Just added the report to the project Wiki page:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-August2023
>
> I also requested write permission to the wiki in which the report has to be 
> submitted.
> The attached MD file has also been sent to: [email protected] , 
> where I asked for the right permissions, according to the docu in the top of 
> the report page.
>
> Let's hope that this permission issue gets solved soon.
>
> Now I think we have a routine regarding the reporting procedure and also some
> small steps done, steps which lead us towards a more active future.
>
> Cheers,
> Mirko
>
>
>
>
> Am Mi., 2. Aug. 2023 um 10:42 Uhr schrieb Christofer Dutz 
> <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So, what’s the progress on this? Is this base still covered?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Von: Christofer Dutz <[email protected]>
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 26. Juli 2023 um 08:49
>> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Betreff: AW: Podling-Report July 2023
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> thanks for picking up on this … but I guess if you write one now, it’s going 
>> to be the August report ;-)
>>
>> Yeah … if we have that one, we’re back on track with our reporting schedule 
>> and can go back to one report ever 3 months.
>> Our official schedule is: February, May, August, November
>>
>> Thanks again for this.
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Von: Eric Tessenow <[email protected]>
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 26. Juli 2023 um 06:52
>> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Betreff: Podling-Report July 2023
>> Dear all,
>>
>> as Mirko is currently not available, he asked me to initiate the podling
>> report for July, the last publication actually being addressed to June.
>>
>> I would like to ask for your contributions by end of Friday.
>>
>> As I do not have the permissions to manage the confluence-pages
>> (apache-training wiki and incubator wiki) yet, please someone with the
>> credentials, I assume
>>
>> Craig, Christopher, Justin, or Lars, you might be able to, please assist if
>> possible to hold the deadline.
>>
>> Hope your all otherwise alright.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Eric
>> Adjusted copy of Podling Report July:July 2023
>>
>> *Training
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#training>*
>>
>> The Training project aims to develop resources which can be used for
>> training purposes in various media formats, languages and for various
>> Apache and non-Apache target projects.
>>
>> Training has been incubating since 2019-02-21.
>>
>> In June, we started adjusting the project goals. Besides a pure focus on
>> content creation tools we have identified the need for two additional
>> aspects:
>> (1) For ASF processes some documentation exists, e.g.
>> https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder, but the ASF member journey
>> is still a challenge for many new members, especially those with less
>> coding experience.
>> As a solution it has been suggested to provide training material for the
>> following problems:
>> * You've just graduated to a TLP. What are the challenges you will now face?
>> * New committer onboarding
>> * New PMC member onboarding
>> * New PMC Chair onboarding
>> * New board member onboarding
>>
>> (2) Creation of some general recommendations/guidelines for:
>>  * managing/validation of training material contributions of arbitrary ASF
>> projects
>> has been propsed.
>>
>> Initial discussion of the topics are ongoing.
>>
>> *We expand our focus now on the following aspects:*
>>
>> *We have to work on strategies to increase the** participation and the
>> visibility of the project and its goals.*
>>
>> *Besides requests** for contributions from individual contributors** from
>> other Apache projects we want to show what the Apache Training project can
>> offer to those projects**.*
>>
>> *We should build on the assumption that synergy and network effects can
>> help us to increase the community around training and skill management
>> topics.*
>>
>>
>> *Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating>
>>
>>    1. Improve the community participation (other Apache projects should
>>    actively be linked to this project, since they "have the content")
>>    2. *(Re)define the short-, mid-, and long-term goals of the project.*
>>    3. *Select an approach to handle non coding / non document related tasks
>>    (e.g., community related activities on events)*
>>    4. *Create a strategy how this projects contributes to or is supported
>>    by other Apache projects*
>>    5. Create a tutorial on how the tools provided by this project can be
>>    used to create own content
>>    6. Review current policies around contribution review and releases to
>>    find a pragmatic compromise
>>
>> *Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of>
>>
>> The Training Project needs more contribution from other Apache projects,
>> hence a clear communication strategy for interlinking existing projects
>> with the Apache Training project is needed.
>>
>> We need feedback from other Apache projects on the presentations and
>> trainings developed till now.
>>
>>
>>
>> *In order to improve this collaboration we suggest to investigate the
>> status of other project’s documentation in a systematic approach,
>> especially with an eye on available training related material.*
>>
>> *How has the community developed since the last report?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report>
>>
>> *no changes*
>>
>>
>> *How has the project developed since the last report?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report>
>>
>> *no changes*
>>
>>
>> *How would you assess the podling's maturity?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity>
>>
>> There are currently some issues with this podling that we are working to
>> address, we believe that the issues are not yet critical and can be turned
>> around from within the community but want to make the board aware of this
>> early on.
>>
>>    -  Initial setup oft he project’s structure: *Goals and strategy needs
>>    refinement.*
>>    -  Working towards first release: *What type of artefacts to release is
>>    not clear, due to unclear goals and strategy.*
>>    -  Community building: *The community exists of a very small number of
>>    people but is more or less invisible, as of today (April 2023).*
>>    -  Nearing graduation: *Currently, we are far away from graduation.*
>>
>>
>> *When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected>
>>
>> November 2020
>>
>>
>> *Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive>
>>
>> Mentors have been responsive and helpful when reached out to.
>>
>>
>> *Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks>
>>
>> The name search process has not yet been started, as there is still time to
>> do that if and when graduation draws nearer.
>>
>> The PPMC is actively monitoring usage of the Podlings current name on other
>> sites.
>>
>> The Podling is not directly affiliating with any sponsors donating content
>> and presenting an independent image on the webpage.
>>
>>
>> *Signed-off-by:*
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#signed-off-by>
>>
>>    -  (training) Craig Russell
>>    Comments:
>>
>>    -  (training) Christofer Dutz
>>    Comments:
>>
>>    -  (training) Justin Mclean
>>    Comments:
>>
>>    -  (training) Lars Francke
>>    Comments:
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf
> Müchelner Str. 23
> 06259 Frankleben
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