--- Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/1/07, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi--you will find me to be a complete novice to > > Velocity and Anakia; nevertheless I have come to > spoil > > the fun. ;) Actually I feel like my timing is > pretty > > good as I have come to talk about further changes > to > > the recent Anakia refactorings: I say my timing > is > > good because it appears the changes to which I > refer > > were made post-1.0 and therefore further > refactoring > > will not result in backward compatibility issues > > (please advise if I am mistaken about this). > > not quite sure what you mean. it's hard to tell if > further > refactoring will cause BC issues without know what > the refactoring > involves. in any case, we could always do an Anakia > 2.0, if the > further refactoring was sufficient to warrant it.
My thought process was that Anakia as a standalone class has not yet been released into the wild, so no matter what is done to it there are no BC issues. An Ant 1.7-compatible Anakia task would probably indicate Anakia v2.0. > > > I'll take this brief moment to--possibly > > unnecessarily--introduce myself (I think several > of > > the key Velocity players are familiar to me from > the > > jakarta and commons dev lists). I am a Jakarta > > (commons) committer as well as a member of the Ant > > PMC. I have begun looking into Anakia recently > and > > with my Ant hat on I'd like to make some > suggestions. > > I would provide my suggestions in the form of > patches > > but I'm unfortunately not yet clueful enough wrt > to > > Anakia/Velocity codebases. > > we can help there. anything in particular you'd > like to know? I see. You're gonna go "smart questions" on me. ;) > > > With all that out of the way, to the one or two or > you > > who may still be paying attention: I'm sure it > should > > surprise no one for me to accuse the AnakiaTask of > > being very old-school Ant; it predates my use of > Ant > > (let alone my actual involvement). For BC > reasons, at > > least for now, that's fine; however, with the > Anakia > > class having been recently extracted from the > > AnakiaTask, I see no reason whatsoever that the > Anakia > > processor itself cannot be written in a more > abstract > > way. In particular I'd like to discuss the idea > of > > reusing Velocity's Resource (and related) > concept(s) > > here, giving the Ant task more responsibilty with > > regard to providing Ant (small 'r') resources in > terms > > of Velocity Resources. This would allow the > > AnakiaTask v1.x to remain compatible with Ant 1.6 > > (possibly/probably earlier versions but that's the > > version in the POM), while allowing other clients > of > > the Anakia processor to be more agile, > particularly by > > permitting the use of non-file resources. > > > > A directly related issue is that Ant 1.7.0 and > beyond > > greatly extend Ant's own Resource concept such > that > > adapters from Ant Resources to Velocity Resources, > and > > related other adapters, should be fairly trivial > to > > write: a 1.7-specific AnakiaTask could be quite > an > > advance over the current implementation in terms > of > > capability. > > not that Anakia or Ant are my fortes, but this > sounds like a good way to go. Glad to hear it. > > > My initial investigation into the Anakia/Velocity > code > > indicates that there may be some Velocity-specific > > idiosyncrasies with regard to ResourceLoader > > configuration, etc., so I have as yet been unable > to > > determine the correct steps to take in modifying > the > > Anakia processor class to use Resources. I > present my > > case here hoping for some direction from > experienced > > Velocity developers. > > sure. got any specific questions here? or are you > looking for a > general primer on Velocity ResourceLoaders? Sort of the latter, yes. There simply seems to be a lot of magic involved; I've seen implications that only one e.g. "file" ResourceLoader can be active for a VelocityEngine, and similar things that strike me funny. If there is a current "Resource guru" in Velocity-land who could provide an overview, that would certainly be welcome. Quick looks at the ResourceManagerImpl didn't leave me with a strong impression of what level of customization is intended to be supported. -Matt > > > Regards, > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check > out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > > http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
