Well, since no one else seems to have an opinion, we can either a)
assume they have no objections and procede or b) call for a vote to
get attention and decide by lazy consensus (at least one +1 and no -1)

personally, i'm ok with either next step. :)

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Nathan Bubna <nbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Antonio Petrelli
> <antonio.petre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all
>> this is just to let you know that I've finished reorganizing all
>> Velocity projects. I left only the DocBook framework since it is not a
>> project, but a directory layout useful to build your documents based
>> on DocBook.
>> For produced builds see:
>> http://people.apache.org/builds/velocity/
>>
>> A snapshot of all projects are in Maven snapshot repository.
>>
>> At this point I hope to receive some feedback from you and, if you
>> like it, maybe we can start a vote thread to move projects from the
>> sandbox to the trunk.
>
> Ok, summer is nuts.  I'm finally digging into a lot of old velocity
> todo stuff, including this.  I've been running the maven-reorg builds
> and poking around at them.  For the most part, i like it.  It will
> certainly take some getting used to though, and i'm still fairly wary
> of complicated Maven stuff after all my frustration with the
> velocity-site mess.  But at this point, you'll have my support in a
> vote for moving this into the Engine 2.0, Tools 2.1, etc, with one
> condition:  documentation.  With the proliferation of artifacts and
> their various reasons and dependencies, we need some very
> user-friendly "Which Jar Is For Me?" type of documentation for users.
> We also need to be sure that you aren't the only one who understands
> how this customized, complicated Maven build works.   And finally, i
> don't know if maven can do this, but one of my current favorite parts
> of the Velocity and VelocityTools build files is that they spit out
> customized directions for building and publishing releases right along
> with the target output, including what documentation to be sure and
> update.  That really helps to keep me on track when i'm doing
> releases.
>
> Also, i'm curious whether any of these builds include OSGi manifest
> creation?  That's a recent addition to some of our builds (just engine
> and tools at this point, i think), that i don't want to lose.
>
> All in all, this is great work, and i'm excited to see us move in a
> more standard direction for our next versions.  I am very sorry that
> it took me so long to respond, and i hope you aren't too discouraged
> that no one else has responded yet.  It's a big thing to consider and
> hard to comment intelligently without putting in a lot of time.  Good
> documentation to read over that explains how/what is going on with all
> the poms and such would probably help get more response, but i know
> you've put in a lot of work already.
>
> So, seriously, what do the rest of you guys think?  We've long talked
> about perhaps doing this in 2.0.  Should we fire up an official vote
> thread or just voice support here?  Henning, i know you are planning
> to work on fixing velocity-site, does any of this help? hinder?
>
>> Thanks
>> Antonio
>>
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