On 05/28/2015 10:48 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Antonio Petrelli
But when repository branches do not build from source, releases do not
build from source, and no one seems to be around to suggest how it's
supposed to work, the Velocity development team destroys the ability
to attract and maintain new community members, which can only lead to
the project's slow death and migration to the Attic.


And probably it is the best, but saddest, thing to do.

If I agreed with that, I wouldn't be part of this conversation.
People are still willing to contribute.

I have enough of a vested interest in Velocity that I will eventually
make progress on this issue.  :)

But now is the time to start enabling contributors to eventually
become committers and then PMC members while there are still
interested and willing contributors in the community.


I would like to point out that we are very happy running Velocity 1.7, in fact 
there is not a single new feature we want.  So we agree
its a stable mature product that doesn't need a lot of changes.  Our problem is 
the world around it has been changing, and Velocity isn't
keeping up.  Apache Commons in particular.  Looks like its easy to go to latest 
lang, and digester, but collections is a different beast.  So velocity
isn't even keeping up with its dependencies from the same organization.  Not to 
mention I am sure the code could benefit from newer java features.

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