:murb: [maarten brouwers] wrote:
Hi all,

The work on the new homepage seems to have slowed down quite a lot. Maybe all are tired, or most are just kidnapped by family/friends/... ;)

Both kinda apply to me, but I was just wondering, could everyone who is still working on the redesign effort inform us and give a status update?

I'm inclined to think that we have reached somehow an agreement on the style and approach, which is currently best visualized by murb_proposal1 (modified Ivan_minimal), see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/Proposals#Action_statement_based

If no one has started yet, my idea proposal is as follows. We start to work on in the website.openoffice.org/tryouts area, create a new subdir, and start converting Ivan's design elements (see below) to HTML. Of course we try to adhere to the standards, in our case XHTML strict (but we don't need to be religious about it). Working in the tryouts area gives us the chance to collaborate on fine tuning the design.

Maarten--

This is reasonable, but bear in mind that *whoever* needs cvs access to website to accomplish this. Personally I haven't taken an indepth look at converting the new proposal (your modified of Ivan's proposal) to html. But, yes, creating the new subdir under tryouts is a good idea. Could you do the honors?

Another approach to speed things up in terms of contributions would be for someone (you, Ivan, etc.) to start an "issue" on this and attach the HTML files to the issue for whoever has access to then post in the tryouts area. Yeah---a very round-about way of dealing with it but what can we do.

I will probably have more time to actually contribute after this week. Yes, I have been somewhat kidnapped! ;}

more later.


By using nonav just after the domain, we can turn off all, hence the name, surrounding navigation that the collab system likes to impose on all the pages it serves, try e.g. http://website.openoffice.org/nonav/tryouts/ .

Let's try to strive for an first half of Januari launch. We'll bump in to the issues during creating the html. Since we have still some unresolved issues, there are a few things we shouldn't fix yet (and should thus be easily modifiable):
- the top right menu
- as much of the text within the body (well, think in general, plain text is better than text in bitmaps, for accessibility/space etc.)

Furthermore there is some legacy we have to adhere to for now, a table for the body, some pages rely on the fact that tables are used. Aside from the use of tables here, I'd like to see only tables if layout is otherwise too complex (but almost anything is possible with div's and css). Let's remember, OpenOffice.org is all about open standards, so let's adhere to other standards as well, and use them properly.

<!--header, total freedom in markup -->
<table id="main" summary="body">
<tr>
<td id="navcol">
    <div id="navcolumn">          <!-- contains navigation -->
    </div>
</td>
<td id="midcol">
    <div id="bodycol">         <!-- contains all body text-->
    </div>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- footer total freedom in markup -->

About the one click download issue: Louis informed me Sun is already working on this. No need for us to worry about this. This leaves us more time to deal with the page that needs to be presented when one click fails for a user (which is one of the main concerns for those who have raised issues, aside from the complexity)

wonderful!


Note that I haven't starting anything yet, I'm polling first whether I'm not duplicating efforts here now. So please, if you are already working on it (Ivan, Randy, Nik?) please let me/us, know soon!

g.,


Maarten






Ivan explained where to find his material:

I've attached a Fireworks-editable PNG (the format I work in), as well
as a PSD version (compressed) to the issue
(http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=84067)

Alternatively, you can download a zip file with both formats from
http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/minimalist.zip (137KB)

I have done the same with the Overkill2 mod, which has bits and pieces
that might be of use (like the footer mentioned above)
http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/overkill2mod.zip (336KB)




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