Hi Maarten,

> > similar to this:
> > http://moofx.mad4milk.net/ - in other words, clicking an action
> > statement will reveal more content.

> Similar to this, or exactly this? I'd propose to use this effects
> library as it is. No need to copy it, optimized for various platforms
> and small... and it is released under the an MIT licence, so no problem
> there with licensing. On the other hand, it does eat 20kb (when the
> accordion is supported)

But a 20KB JavaScript file downloads far quicker than a 20KB image
(probably through compression done by the ISP). The current website is
some 170KB all up. With the MooTools .js file, the new design will
still be less than 40KB in size, so I see no problem with that.

> > I want to learn more about OpenOffice.org
> > -- this could just jump straight to why.openoffice.org (BTW, when will
> > the new why design replace the current one?)

> Since there will be a style change, I'd put one page in between that
> kind of leads toward the style change. I don't know anything about the
> why pages, they have never really been discussed here. I guess marketing
> maintaims them?

The new design compared with the current one is like night and day
(IMHO) - more energetic, user friendly and colorful - I think it would
be great if it could be launched alongside the new homepage. If
there's something halting the progress of the new why pages, maybe the
web-dev list could help? I've see no discussion happening on the
marketing list related to the new design over the past few months.

> > I want to download OpenOffice.org
> > -- this will contain the download options discussed in the one-click
> > download thread - the detected OS & language will be displayed, along
> > with other options - JRE/no JRE (or equivalent OS-specific options),
> > download a different language, download via torrent, where you can get
> > the CD from, and so on.

> What I proposed was that the box would open up (see the moo fx website),
> and you only get a direct, minimum (one if possible) click, download
> button and some small links to 'other downloads', 'cd-roms'.

I don't see how this differs to what I wrote above:
 - one-click download link if possible
 - link to customize download - pick other languages, OS'es, etc
 - link to more info on the CD
 - link to torrent [optional] (if there is a sizable number of people
using this)

> What I am kind of unsure about is, is whether all blocks should use the
> moo fx accordion effect... e.g. help may need a little bit of more
> explanation than only a few links 'go to forums', 'go to mailinglist',
> 'download user guide' and 'complete overview'. I think in this case it
> would be better to open up a new page allowing for a bit more space to
> explain things... My idea was to have only limited text when a box opens
> up... but we could see what works or not.

What I don't like about this approach is that it puts an additional
click and a page between the visitor and the content. But if we only
present them with uninformative links like 'Go to mailinglist', that
would be even worse. The way I imagine it is somewhere between these
two - a brief sentence or two explaining each option. Just like 'I
want to download OpenOffice.org' will appear instead of 'download', a
descriptive sentence or two can appear instead of 'go to mailinglist'.
This shouldn't require much space if done right, and it would avoid
loading an extra page in-between. Otherwise, if every option was going
to lead to an "in-between" page, then we wouldn't need the accordion
at all.

> I wrote down the preliminary idea down here (I think this is faster than
> ping-pong-ing zips with source around ;) ):
>
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/Content
>
> My native language is not English, and much of it is just a rough draft.
> So please improve where you think improvement is needed.

I've sent an email to the marketing list with a link to the wiki page,
hopefully they will be able to help.

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