>From my perspective, I'd like the idea of *geting the weex-toolkit donated and making the contributors Weex committers.*
1. If the corresponding code is owned by Alibaba, and someone represented the company would sign the SGA, is there any necessary to have all the contributors signed the SGA again? 2. From my point of view, there will be lots of copyright / trademark issues around, as none of the PPMC member is lawyer, Is there anyone from Apache we can consult about the law issue? 3. weex-toolkit is already an open source project under MIT license, would it violate any copyright / trademark rules/laws if we fork the original weex-toolkit and push it to Apache repos. Best Regards, YorkShen 申远 Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> 于2019年2月19日周二 下午7:40写道： > More information, > > here are the steps that will have to be completed for the IP clearance: > > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html > > I think finding out who currently *owns* the code is a good first step. My > suspicion is that most of it is work-for-hire performed for Alibaba. That > would mean Alibaba owns the code. Please use your contacts inside that > company to find out. > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:30 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi YorkShen, > > > > You may not need to contact all of the contributors. Some of the > > contributions may not pass the threshold of originality which is commonly > > applied in copyright law. > > > > For example: > > https://github.com/weexteam/weex-toolkit/commits?author=RiverCheng0825 > > > > This contributor only provided two commits and both were minor wording > > changes. My initial guess looking at the contributors list is that > you'll > > need to contact roughly half of the contributors. If you're lucky, some > of > > them are already part of the Weex project. > > > > That's the copyright law side of things. On the trademark law side of > > things you have a different problem. As far as I know, the weex name > > belongs to Apache. Naming an account weexteam, and a project > weex-toolkit > > violates that trademark. It implies that a thing is Apache Weex which is > > clearly not, since > > * the license of the code isn't Apache, > > * the code doesn't belong to Apache, > > * the contributors aren't discussing their changes on the Apache mailing > > lists, and > > * the Apache Weex PMC can't decide who is allowed to contribute to the > > code. > > > > I'm guessing that you want most of that code to actually be part of the > > Apache Weex project. If you can get it donated, that will be a much > nicer > > way to resolve the problem. But if you can't get it resolved that way, > the > > names of the things that aren't Weex will have to be changed so that they > > aren't misleading. In short you have two options: > > > > * Get the code donated and make the contributors Weex committers, or > > * Change the names in the code so that it doesn't call itself Weex. > > > > I believe getting the code donated would be better for the community. > But > > it's up to you. Either way, I'll help you navigate Apache in the steps > > involved. > > > > You have time to do this, so you can do it repository by repository if > you > > need to. But you'll have to get it done before Weex can graduate. > > > > Best Regards, > > Myrle > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:29 AM 申远 <shenyua...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> It took me some time to read things about IP Clearance > >> <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html>, and I think > >> https://github.com/weexteam/weex-toolkit is the only repo we should > move. > >> The following problems may prevent us from moving weex-toolkit to apache > >> > >> 1. According to informations on github > >> <https://github.com/weexteam/weex-toolkit/graphs/contributors>, > there > >> are 25 contributors, it is almost impossible to notify all them to > >> sign the > >> SGA. > >> 2. weex-toolkit is owned not by Alibaba Group > >> <https://github.com/alibaba> but a custom weexteam > >> <https://github.com/weexteam> organization among which many > developers > >> are employees of Alibaba Group. As I am not an IP lawyer, I don't > know > >> whether there is a potential IP issues or how to solve this issue. > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> YorkShen > >> > >> 申远 > >> > >> > >> Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com> 于2019年2月15日周五 下午7:44写道： > >> > >> > Is weexteam/weex-toolkit really the only repo that should be included? > >> > If you go through this process, better make sure all the relevant > >> > stuff is included. If you plan to deprecate or remove things in the > >> > future, you can still do so. But for now _all_ the used code should be > >> > moved over to Apache. > >> > > >> > For the details on SGA/MIT etc the mentors will have to help. Usually > >> > there are practical and simple solutions to these things. > >> > > >> > J > >> > > >> > Am Fr., 15. Feb. 2019 um 05:16 Uhr schrieb 申远 <shenyua...@gmail.com>: > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > 1. What repositories should be imported? (=> List of repositories) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > https://github.com/weexteam/weex-toolkit > >> > > > >> > > 2. Who contributed to theses repositories? Who are active and > relevant > >> > > > contributors? (Individuals and companies) (=> List of names) > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > 25 individuals, maybe two or three are active, detail: > >> > > https://github.com/weexteam/weex-toolkit/graphs/contributors > >> > > > >> > > 3. Are all names from that list joining as contributors / PMC > members? > >> > (=> > >> > > > Yes/No) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > No, most of them are not. > >> > > > >> > > 5. If no: SGA > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > It Seems like a SGA is needed, though it is almost impossible to > >> contact > >> > > all of the 25 contributors. > >> > > > >> > > What confuses me is repository we talked about is under *MIT > license* > >> by > >> > > individual developers , Is IP clearness is still necessary here? > >> > > > >> > > Best Regards, > >> > > YorkShen > >> > > > >> > > 申远 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com> 于2019年2月14日周四 下午5:38写道： > >> > > > >> > > > I read through the links you provided Willem, and extracted the > >> > following > >> > > > questions that have to be answered: > >> > > > > >> > > > 1. What repositories should be imported? (=> List of repositories) > >> > > > 2. Who contributed to theses repositories? Who are active and > >> relevant > >> > > > contributors? (Individuals and companies) (=> List of names) > >> > > > 3. Are all names from that list joining as contributors / PMC > >> members? > >> > (=> > >> > > > Yes/No) > >> > > > 4. If yes: ICLA for all have to be available > >> > > > 5. If no: SGA > >> > > > 6. Is gene...@incubator.apache.org ok with the ICLAs and SGAs on > >> hand? > >> > > > > >> > > > I assume that the existing weex Apache codebase went through the > >> same > >> > > > process, so this shouldn't actually be too hard if only the same > >> people > >> > > > worked on the additional repositories that should be moved. > >> > > > > >> > > > When the questions above are answered, it should be pretty easy > for > >> > one of > >> > > > the mentors to start the code acceptance process, correct? > >> > > > > >> > > > J > >> > > > > >> > > > Am Do., 14. Feb. 2019 um 08:03 Uhr schrieb Willem Jiang < > >> > > > willem.ji...@gmail.com>: > >> > > > > >> > > > > We need to do the IP Clearance[1] first. To be honest, it's my > >> first > >> > > > > time to go through this process. > >> > > > > We could take the others project path[2] as an example. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > [1]https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html > >> > > > > [2]http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Willem Jiang > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Twitter: willemjiang > >> > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:48 AM 申远 <shenyua...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > According to dependency in package.json > >> > > > > > < > >> https://github.com/weexteam/weex-toolkit/blob/master/package.json>, > >> > I > >> > > > > > don't think there is a IP issue. Maybe Dan could do a double > >> check. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > BTW, what's the standard procedure if we want to move a repo > to > >> > Apache > >> > > > > > project ? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best Regards, > >> > > > > > YorkShen > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > 申远 > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> 于2019年2月13日周三 下午2:35写道： > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If we want to move the repo, we need to address the SGA > >> problem > >> > > > first. > >> > > > > > > It has nothing to do with the committer right yet, we just > >> need > >> > to > >> > > > > > > make sure the IP issue is resolved before moving forward. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Willem Jiang > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Twitter: willemjiang > >> > > > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:41 AM Dan <faterr...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi Jan, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Definitely include INFRA in the move of the > repositories, > >> > they > >> > > > can > >> > > > > > > > probably > >> > > > > > > > make it a normal move/transfer of a GitHub repository > >> between > >> > two > >> > > > > orgs, > >> > > > > > > so > >> > > > > > > > not only the stars, but also issues, PRs etc are moved and > >> the > >> > old > >> > > > > URLs > >> > > > > > > are > >> > > > > > > > automatically forwarded. The only thing one has to do > >> > manually, is > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > > update the user/repository name if you use it in the code > >> > somewhere > >> > > > > - but > >> > > > > > > > probably also not _right now_, but whenever you have the > >> time > >> > to do > >> > > > > so - > >> > > > > > > as > >> > > > > > > > all the links, repository clones etc. should be forwarded. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Did you mean to transfer the `weexteam/weex-toolkit` > project > >> > to the > >> > > > > link > >> > > > > > > > like `apache/incubator-weex-tools`? This seems to be a > >> > relatively > >> > > > > > > low-cost > >> > > > > > > > method at present. I only need someone to help me check > the > >> > > > > > > specifications > >> > > > > > > > of the project. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > By the way, after that, there will be three git repo on > the > >> > > > > > > > `apache/weex` team, like `apache/incubator-weex`, > >> > > > `apache/incubator- > >> > > > > > > > weex-site` and `apache/incubator-weex-tools`, I don't > know > >> > that's > >> > > > > ok or > >> > > > > > > > not, just tell the situation. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am not a committer for the apache/weex now, also I am > not > >> > very > >> > > > > familiar > >> > > > > > > > with the apache process. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Maybe someone can list what we need to do next? > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > > > > Dan > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com> 于2019年2月12日周二 > >> 下午9:20写道： > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If I may give some input here as well: > >> > > > > > > > > Definitely include INFRA in the move of the > repositories, > >> > they > >> > > > can > >> > > > > > > probably > >> > > > > > > > > make it a normal move/transfer of a GitHub repository > >> > between two > >> > > > > > > orgs, so > >> > > > > > > > > not only the stars, but also issues, PRs etc are moved > and > >> > the > >> > > > old > >> > > > > > > URLs are > >> > > > > > > > > automatically forwarded. The only thing one has to do > >> > manually, > >> > > > is > >> > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > update the user/repository name if you use it in the > code > >> > > > > somewhere - > >> > > > > > > but > >> > > > > > > > > probably also not _right now_, but whenever you have the > >> > time to > >> > > > > do so > >> > > > > > > - as > >> > > > > > > > > all the links, repository clones etc. should be > forwarded. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -J > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Am Di., 12. Feb. 2019 um 13:43 Uhr schrieb Willem Jiang > < > >> > > > > > > > > willem.ji...@gmail.com>: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I don't aware the git repository transfer issue, if it > >> > related > >> > > > > to the > >> > > > > > > > > > snapshot release, I think we can work out a solution > for > >> > it. > >> > > > > > > > > > If it relates to SGA things, I think we need to dig > more > >> > detail > >> > > > > about > >> > > > > > > > > that. > >> > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I'd happy to help you to do the code transfer > >> work. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Willem Jiang > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Twitter: willemjiang > >> > > > > > > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:33 PM Myrle Krantz < > >> > my...@apache.org > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hey Dan, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:46 AM Dan < > >> faterr...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Myrle > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay getting back to you. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > No problem. I hope you enjoyed Chinese New Year! > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Normally repo history can also be imported to an > >> Apache > >> > > > > > > repository. > >> > > > > > > > > Is > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that what you mean by warehouse? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The `warehouse` is caused by incorrect > translation, > >> it > >> > > > should > >> > > > > > > means > >> > > > > > > > > git > >> > > > > > > > > > > > repo, don't mind. I know there has a way to import > >> > history > >> > > > > into > >> > > > > > > > > Apache > >> > > > > > > > > > > > repo, but based on the experience of the last weex > >> repo > >> > > > > > > migration, > >> > > > > > > > > some > >> > > > > > > > > > > > developers will be very uncomfortable with this > >> > change, and > >> > > > > may > >> > > > > > > even > >> > > > > > > > > > feel > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that this is an unstable performance. At the same > >> time, > >> > > > some > >> > > > > > > > > developers > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will still feedback new project issues in the old > >> > project. > >> > > > We > >> > > > > > > need to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > conduct reasonable and effective guidance, I think > >> > this is > >> > > > > not a > >> > > > > > > > > matter > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that can be decided immediately, I will initiate a > >> > vote on > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > > > > > matter. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to hear that things didn't go smoothly in > >> the > >> > first > >> > > > > > > transfer. > >> > > > > > > > > > I > >> > > > > > > > > > > don't know the details, since I wasn't mentoring > then. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As I understand it, Infra can also do a repository > >> move, > >> > > > which > >> > > > > > > would > >> > > > > > > > > > bring > >> > > > > > > > > > > over all the stars, etc. Would you like me to ask? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > >> > > > > > > > > > > Myrle > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > >
