On 29 February 2016 at 22:27, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > Feel free to add a link on the main whimsy page, re-order columns, > capitalize headings, etc.
OK > I also forgot to mention that it is my intent to make the roster tool > fully read/write over time... people with the appropriate permissions > should be able to make updates from these pages. The ability to edit > the SpamAssassin score, and to add/remove committers are just an > examples of what possibilities are there. > > So there may be other read-only views out there. The phone book is an > example. I'm personally skeptical of it's functionality to do > cross-checks. Not that it duplicates functionality that has been Not? Did you mean Note? > present for a long time in the roster tool (that's fine with me, after > all, it has a different target audience). But that it tells the wrong > audience (the general public) this information, and does not provide > the means to correct it. AFAIK, the phone book was aimed at committers, not the general public, though it is public. It is now usable as a replacement for most of people.a.o. Whimsy is not as easy to use as it requires auth for most of the information that has traditionally been publicly available from people.a.o. > - Sam Ruby > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:13 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 29 February 2016 at 21:56, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:40 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 29 February 2016 at 21:37, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Main page lists a link for: >>>>> >>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age >>>>> >>>>> This lists 50 PPMCs >>>>> >>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster lists >>> >>> How did you get to this page? >> >> I typed it in, because it's not linked from the main page. >> Perhaps it should be added above the list of its sub-pages? >> >>> It should have a trailing slash. Do we >>> need to add the following to >>> infrastructure-puppet/data/nodes/whimsy-vm2.apache.org.yaml >>> >>> RedirectMatch ^/roster$ /roster/ >> >> Probably not. >> >>>>> 51 Podlings Active podlings at the ASF => >>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/podlings => 404 >>>>> >>>>> Not sure where the link is supposed to go >>>> >>>> Found it at >>>> >>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/podlings >>>> >>>> However this repeats the information in, and indeed links to, >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/#current >>> >>> Apparently not. One has 50 and one has 51. :-) >>> >>>> Not sure why there is a need for this duplication. >>>> Why not just link to the incubator site? >>> >>> I do link to the incubator site when you click on an individual podling. >>> >>> The index pages has counts, and can sort in various ways by clicking >>> on the headings. >> >> Did not realise that; it's not immediately obvious. >> I think the Status column should be between the Name and Description >> (and IMO they would be more obvious if they were capitalised). >> >>> I'm not sure what cross-checks may be useful, but an >>> example where cross-checks find authorizations associated with retired >>> podlings can be found on the groups page. >> >> Current podlings may have a non-LDAP group (for SVN auth); this should >> disappear when the podling graduates (it's replaced by an LDAP >> committee group) or retires (it should be removed). >> >>>>> or why the pages disagree on >>>>> the number of podlings >>> >>> Nope. I would have thought that the two pages were derived from the >>> same data source. >> >> They should both be derived from podlings.xml, but maybe they >> interpret it differently. >> Or maybe they are using different copies - there's the original SVN, >> then maybe a staging copy and the deployed copy. >> If a change has not been fully pushed there could be discrepancies. >> >>> - Sam Ruby