> The quickstart itself is stateless, so no sessions/cookies are created.

Good point, one can even never navigate to the self signed certificate
error page.
Even so, it sounds a good idea for me to remove such unnecessary complexity
(HTTPS setup) for newcomers.

> Any code added by the developer can break the application in many
different
> ways...
>
> No quickstart, no problems :-)

Sure, but we can make non Wicket related problems more unlikely to happen
to
newcomers playing around. I thought this was the point of the proposal

Pedro Santos

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Martin Grigorov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Pedro Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > +0
> >
> > Sounds a good idea since the quickstart is the fist contact most of new
> > users will have with Wicket. It makes sense to keep is as simple as
> > possible, focusing on showcasing components like WebPage, Label.
> >
> > Also the HTTPS configuration can easily go wrong as it will set a secure
> > cookie on the browser, and cause any following non secure access to fail
> in
> > to set a session cookie. Its not a Wicket problem, but its an avoidable
> > scenario for newcomers, and one that is already reported on the users
> list
> >
>
> The quickstart itself is stateless, so no sessions/cookies are created.
> Any code added by the developer can break the application in many different
> ways...
>
> No quickstart, no problems :-)
>
>
> > [1]
> >
> > 1 -
> > http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Endless-
> > Redirect-with-tracking-mode-COOKIE-and-Cookies-Disabled-
> > in-Browser-td4679364.html#a4679370
> >
> >
> > Pedro Santos
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:17 AM, Emond Papegaaij <
> > [email protected]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > I agree, application servers, such as WildFly provide similar
> solutions.
> > By
> > > default WildFly will generate a self-signed certificate for the
> https/h2
> > > listener.
> > >
> > > Emond
> > >
> > > On dinsdag 16 januari 2018 05:10:32 CET Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> > > > -1
> > > >
> > > > I believe it's good to have HTTPS configuration ready for the tests.
> > > > It is impossible to provide non-self-signed, so IMO security warning
> > > > is OK here
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:42 AM, Martin Grigorov <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > -1
> > > > >
> > > > > The current setup makes it easier to debug HTTPS related issues.
> > > > > I, personally, do not want to deal with openssl, keytool and
> > > > > jetty-https.xml just to debug an issue in HttpsMapper or related
> > code.
> > > > >
> > > > > A user can use http://localhost if (s)he doesn't want to accept
> self
> > > > > signed
> > > > > certs.
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2c.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Martijn Dashorst <
> > > > >
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> The quick start uses a self signed certificate that gives errors
> in
> > > > >> browsers and requires folks to accept the certificate in their
> trust
> > > > >> chain.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I suggest we remove the secure layer part from our quickstart just
> > to
> > > > >> make sure we don't train our users to accept any certificate.
> WDYT?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Martijn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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