On the other hand
in case someone will need HTTPS quickstart he/she need to write lots
of stuff ....


On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:43 AM, Pedro Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The quickstart itself is stateless, so no sessions/cookies are created.
>
> Good point, one can even never navigate to the self signed certificate
> error page.
> Even so, it sounds a good idea for me to remove such unnecessary complexity
> (HTTPS setup) for newcomers.
>
>> Any code added by the developer can break the application in many
> different
>> ways...
>>
>> No quickstart, no problems :-)
>
> Sure, but we can make non Wicket related problems more unlikely to happen
> to
> newcomers playing around. I thought this was the point of the proposal
>
> Pedro Santos
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Martin Grigorov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Pedro Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > +0
>> >
>> > Sounds a good idea since the quickstart is the fist contact most of new
>> > users will have with Wicket. It makes sense to keep is as simple as
>> > possible, focusing on showcasing components like WebPage, Label.
>> >
>> > Also the HTTPS configuration can easily go wrong as it will set a secure
>> > cookie on the browser, and cause any following non secure access to fail
>> in
>> > to set a session cookie. Its not a Wicket problem, but its an avoidable
>> > scenario for newcomers, and one that is already reported on the users
>> list
>> >
>>
>> The quickstart itself is stateless, so no sessions/cookies are created.
>> Any code added by the developer can break the application in many different
>> ways...
>>
>> No quickstart, no problems :-)
>>
>>
>> > [1]
>> >
>> > 1 -
>> > http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Endless-
>> > Redirect-with-tracking-mode-COOKIE-and-Cookies-Disabled-
>> > in-Browser-td4679364.html#a4679370
>> >
>> >
>> > Pedro Santos
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:17 AM, Emond Papegaaij <
>> > [email protected]
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > -1
>> > >
>> > > I agree, application servers, such as WildFly provide similar
>> solutions.
>> > By
>> > > default WildFly will generate a self-signed certificate for the
>> https/h2
>> > > listener.
>> > >
>> > > Emond
>> > >
>> > > On dinsdag 16 januari 2018 05:10:32 CET Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> > > > -1
>> > > >
>> > > > I believe it's good to have HTTPS configuration ready for the tests.
>> > > > It is impossible to provide non-self-signed, so IMO security warning
>> > > > is OK here
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:42 AM, Martin Grigorov <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > -1
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The current setup makes it easier to debug HTTPS related issues.
>> > > > > I, personally, do not want to deal with openssl, keytool and
>> > > > > jetty-https.xml just to debug an issue in HttpsMapper or related
>> > code.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > A user can use http://localhost if (s)he doesn't want to accept
>> self
>> > > > > signed
>> > > > > certs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My 2c.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Martijn Dashorst <
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > >> The quick start uses a self signed certificate that gives errors
>> in
>> > > > >> browsers and requires folks to accept the certificate in their
>> trust
>> > > > >> chain.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I suggest we remove the secure layer part from our quickstart just
>> > to
>> > > > >> make sure we don't train our users to accept any certificate.
>> WDYT?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Martijn
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>



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