Hi Sanjiva, On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanj...@wso2.com>wrote:
> Yeah so Tropos is basically a new kinda IaaS and it has a controller > (which is a Carbon server) which goes in the host machine and an agent > (which is also a Carbon server) which goes inside the LXC itself. Controller resides in a separate machine, and agent resides in the host machine. It's the newly spawned Carbon server which resides in the LXC. > We should make a new commons project or something and have that project > take a dependency on a version of Carbon (even an old version is fine > really) from Maven. > > Right?? > > Sanjiva. > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> Currently all the Tropos related code live under components/tropos. May >> be we should move it to a better place in the SVN. >> >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanj...@wso2.com>wrote: >> >>> So is Tropos effectively an IaaS (for autoscaling within a set of worker >>> nodes via LXCs) .. if so we should carefully separate Tropos out as a >>> separate project. In that case Tropos Controller is fine. >>> >>> Sanjiva. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Controller might not be the best term to use, but what we discussed >>>> was, all this Tropos stuff is related to IaaS, and not PaaS. In PaaS, >>>> controller has a special meaning as per the Gartner definition & includes >>>> BAM/B&M/IdentityMgt etc. For lack of a better term, I think calling this >>>> Tropos controller will be OK, and there will be no confusion since this is >>>> at the IaaS layer. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <lahi...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana >>>>> <sanj...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Damitha you guys can't take the name "Stratos Controller" .. that's >>>>>> what we're using for the full group of stuff that "controls" Stratos: >>>>>> manager, IS, G-Reg, BAM, B&M etc.. >>>>> >>>>> What we've decided in the last demo meeting was to call this "Tropos >>>>> controller" since the Stratos controller is given to above. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please review the slide deck on Stratos scaling and you'll see the >>>>>> terms. We used to call that whole thing the manager but that made no >>>>>> sense >>>>>> because we have a thing inside called manager too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sanjiva. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Damitha Kumarage <dami...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And it was discussed that we should have a controller pack as part >>>>>>> of the release >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Damitha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Sajith Kariyawasam >>>>>>> <saj...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Further, we will need to investigate as to why it takes more than >>>>>>>> expected time for the LB to receive the 'Join' message when an app >>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>> is started inside a container >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, it was suggested that we should test this with multiple >>>>>>>> domains (not only AS, but also ESB.. etc) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding the introductory presentation, I think its better to add >>>>>>>> Agent registration part and some of the controller's functionalities >>>>>>>> (persistence) so that the overall picture gets more clearer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Nirmal Fernando <nir...@wso2.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Today we had another demo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Participants were: Azeez, Srinath, Dimuthu, Damitha, Sameera, >>>>>>>>> Pradeep, Ranga, Lahiru, Sajith and myself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First we gave a brief overview of the autoscaling architecture. >>>>>>>>> Then we started the demo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We were able to demo end-end (LB -> Controller --> Agent) scenario >>>>>>>>> for spawning an instance (through LB sanity check) and termination of >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> instance (through scaling down call) within a LXC container. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Few suggestions came up: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Create separate carbon instances (rather than using Appservers) >>>>>>>>> for controller and agent. >>>>>>>>> 2. Create a simple UI for controller to show instances spawned in >>>>>>>>> each adapter, instances belong to a particular domain etc. >>>>>>>>> 3. Fixing the domain related issue in AutoscaleInMediator (This >>>>>>>>> arose with the changes in loadbalancer.conf to reflect tenant aware >>>>>>>>> load >>>>>>>>> balancing). >>>>>>>>> 4. Fixing the routing issue using Azeez's fix to Axis2. >>>>>>>>> 5. Make scaling up demonstrable using a back-end service which has >>>>>>>>> some processing (or having a Thread.sleep(..) call). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please add anything I've missed! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS: We'll repeat the demo next week (hopefully with some more >>>>>>>>> improvements next week, for Sanjiva, Paul and anyone interested). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks & regards, >>>>>>>>> Nirmal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Software Engineer- Platform Technologies Team, WSO2 Inc. >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +94715779733 >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Dev@wso2.org >>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> *Sajith Kariyawasam* >>>>>>>> *Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Dev@wso2.org >>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Damitha Kumarage >>>>>>> Technical Leader; WSO2 Inc. >>>>>>> Oxygenating the Web Service Platform >>>>>>> http://www.wso2.com/ >>>>>>> blog: >>>>>>> http://damithakumarage.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>>>> Dev@wso2.org >>>>>>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >>>>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>>>>> email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 >>>>>> 6880 | +1 650 265 8311 >>>>>> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Lean . 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Enterprise . Middleware* >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>> email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880| +1 >>> 650 265 8311 >>> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ >>> >>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Afkham Azeez* >> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >> * <http://www.apache.org/>** >> email: **az...@wso2.com* <az...@wso2.com>* cell: +94 77 3320919 >> blog: **http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org>* >> twitter: **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez*<http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> >> * >> linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez* >> * >> * >> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware* >> >> > > > -- > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ > email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 > 650 265 8311 > blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ > > Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev@wso2.org > http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- Thanks & regards, Nirmal Software Engineer- Platform Technologies Team, WSO2 Inc. Mobile: +94715779733 Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
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