kriegaex commented on PR #124:
URL: https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/pull/124#issuecomment-1820131213

   > > That was intentional
   > 
   > Please be civil.
   
   I was and still am civil. It should be permitted for me to speak just as 
frankly as you do. It is quite interesting to see that you are always ready to 
deal blows, but seem to be unwilling to take any in response. Like I said: Be 
nice to me, and I will be nice to you. Tit for tat. You were not nice, but 
repeatedly made snarky, even condescending comments like Maven being a "waste 
of time".
   
   > As you stress that "...build process. Any change can mess up the build. 
Reviewing them is well invested time", please check out #2 and my other PRs to 
xalan-java. They are all build-related.
   
   I am talking about our interaction here, not about whatever other PRs - 
build-related or not - you might have worked on before. They are utterly 
irrelevant here and in no way entitle you to make dismissive comments and then 
be surprised about confrontative responses. Again: tit for tat.
   
   > > No, you said it was a waste of time. That is a judgemental statement
   > 
   > Sure reviewing Maven scripts is a waste of time for me. Sure there might 
be people who adore reviewing Maven scripts. It does not mean "Maven is crap" 
or "Maven is good". It just means I do not like spending time on reviewing 
Maven scripts.
   
   Then I suggest, that you choose your wording more carefully next time. Out 
of context, the comment is most likely to be understood as judgemental, snarky, 
condescending - especially, if you follow up both here and on Jira with Maven 
vs. Gradle comparisons. You do not need to "adore" Maven or the people using 
it. Just do not look down on them. You are in no way superior or more advanced, 
because you happen to prefer Gradle.
   
   > > you see that I am open for criticism, having taken your concerns about 
package relocation seriously and addressing them here, even though you bluntly 
just suggested to decline the PR.
   > 
   > First, thank you for figuring out the way properties file can be 
relocated. Second, I would stress that you did not envision issues with 
META-INF/maven usages in the first place, and it was me who highlighted the 
issues with relocation.
   
   Which is why I thanked you, even burnt into the commit history forever. But 
your first comment on the Jira issue was to suggest unconditionally decline and 
close it.
   
   
![image](https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/assets/1537384/8f7e11cb-57f4-4cbc-8f31-2504229a9e63)
   
   Do you even notice how condescending you treat other people? Try that with 
others, but not with me, I am not having it. Or live with the way I respond. I 
had to protest first, before you finally made more helpful comments, and only 
then this happened:
   
   > If the original solution with META-INF/maven was merged as is, then it 
would likely cause issues for the end users. A design issue was identified 
during a review, and you fixed it. That is the way review should work in my 
opinion. What else do you expect from a code/design review?
   
   Then why don't you start with that kind of review next time?
   
   Skipping the rest of your comments, because my time box is up. I already 
regret answering this much, because I actually I do not want to read twice the 
amount as a response from you, feeling compelled to reply once more. Instead, I 
would like to continue helping Joe here and there with his Maven migration. You 
can either join us or let us work in peace. There is no need for you to "waste 
your time" with more Maven-related things. Helpful code reviews are always 
welcome, though.


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