Hi Nikos

I didn't make the test since the user guide states that "... After
number of messages has hit this value, Kannel began to discard
them..."

I don't want messages to be discarded but queued...

Are they really discarded?

Regards

Alvaro




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2009/6/15 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Al,
>
> What's up?
>
> Did configuration do the trick?
>
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
> To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>; "Alan McNatty"
> <a...@catalyst.net.nz>
> Cc: <devel@kannel.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get stuck
> inqueue
>
>
>> Hi Al,
>>
>> Please see inline answers. Kannel load balances all available smscs during
>> operation. The only problem is that during startup, it starts sms_router too
>> soon. From the discussion, i see that a patch may not even be necessary, it
>> could be a configuration issue. Else I could always update the patch to
>> account for more cases.
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>> <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Alan McNatty" <a...@catalyst.net.nz>
>> Cc: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>; <devel@kannel.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>> stuck inqueue
>>
>>
>>> Hi Nikos
>>
>>> I'm still around here... I've been busy this lasts days... I wish I
>>> was on vacations ;-)
>>
>>> Regarding this patch, -I didn't had time to test it- but seems to
>>> solve the issue making kannel hold the queue assignment until all
>>> smsc's are online. However I do agree with Alan in the fact that that
>>> solution is not suitable since there can be many scenarios where an
>>> smsc will not come online or might be delayed at kannel startup and
>>> this will delay all message traffic.
>>
>> If one could describe me these scenarios (when bbox will startup
>> succesfully, with smscs failing) I could implement them in the code.
>>
>>> I'll be for a solution where Kannel recalculate its queue(loadbalance)
>>> for a given destination when a new destination for the given
>>> route/destination is available/unavailable and not only at startup.
>>
>> That's what it does all of the time. The only difference, at startup, it
>> starts sms_router too soon.
>>
>>> Another option might be to make kannel have an intermediate queue that
>>> is not assigned to an smsc until the smsc queue is less than 5min on
>>> the spscific smsc. This way in case of a restart, the 1st smsc to be
>>> available will get a moderate queue and the rest of smsc's will
>>> loadbalace the rest of messages once.
>>
>>> Would something like that might be possible? I fear that an approach
>>> like this one  will require a big remake of kannel queue/load
>>> management and I doubt kannel team will go for it.
>>
>> I can do that. No problem. But you don't need a patch for that, you can
>> use configuration. Have you tried setting in smsc group:
>>
>> sms-outgoing-queue-limit = 50?
>>
>> This will push the first 50 sms to your smsc, and then push single sms,
>> until your other smscs go online.
>>
>>> Also I stick in the opinion that kannel shouldn't panic if it can't
>>> set active/enable an smsc on startup since there can be other smscs
>>> that can process messages for other routes/destinations. This issue is
>>> more important since the only workarroud  is to edit kannel.conf
>>> comment the offending smsc and restart kannel.... and once the smsc is
>>> fixed, re-edit kannel.conf and restart kannel since so far, there is
>>> no way to make kannel reread the config file.
>>
>> We are in total agreement. I never liked this issue myself, either (both
>> failing to startup and not reconfiguring on the fly).
>>
>>> Once I test the patch I'll let you know. Probably this weekend.
>>
>> Please don't. Wait for the patch update.
>>
>>> Regards and THANKS for your time & Support.
>>
>> No pro, bro. Sorry for the delay, and for your ordeal. Mexico should be
>> beautiful this time of the year.
>>
>> Alvaro
>>
>>
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>> celular y Nextel
>> en el PerΓΊ, MΓ©xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
>> SMS y GPRS online
>>             Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
>> www.pravcom.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Alan McNatty<a...@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nikos,
>>>
>>> OK, yeah I'm not about failure at start-up time. If an SMSC is off-line
>>> (SMPP timeout/retry during bind) kannel will start (simply config a
>>> bogus IP address for SMPP to test this out). An example is lets say we
>>> have 2 connections for load balancing. Now consider 1 smsc being taken
>>> offline (no tcp connection) as it is upgraded, we can still send through
>>> the other (this is also useful for DR - disaster recover, etc).
>>>
>>> So from my example above only 1 connection would be active the other in
>>> bind retry loop (wait X seconds, etc) - no tcp connection is established
>>> to smsc. If we re-started kannel it wouldn't be a good idea to wait for
>>> both links to become active before pushing messages out - this would
>>> mean waiting for the upgraded smsc to come back online, no?
>>>
>>> Again sorry if I'm talking at cross purposes here.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>> If even 1 SMSc in configuration file fails to start, bearerbox will
>>>> panic. There are several states to any SMSc, like connecting, going
>>>> down, etc. Bearerbox expects all SMScs to be available on startup. The
>>>> operative word is "available". If a configured modem is not connected,
>>>> that's a failure and you would have to take it off configuration to
>>>> startup.
>>>>
>>>> After it starts, SMScs can go up or down. Isolated mode still needs
>>>> SMScs for outgoing messages. The only mode that doesn't is Suspended.
>>>> But i don't think that even this will startup without all SMScs
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> Available is different than Active. Available means anything but Failed
>>>> (Dead,etc.). An available SMSc could be down, or coming up or
>>>> connecting.
>>>>
>>>> In this patch, router will wait to start until all SMScs become active.
>>>>
>>>> What is DR?
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>> Nikos
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan McNatty" <a...@catalyst.net.nz>
>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "Alvaro Cornejo" <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>; <devel@kannel.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:22 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>>> stuck inqueue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nikos,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I haven't reviewed this whole thread in detail but was caught by
>>>>> .. "bearerbox will not start unless all smscs are available." .. this
>>>>> worried me a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm concerned that in a DR scenario if 1 connection is down (and not
>>>>> coming up just yet) then I would like to be able to (re)start no
>>>>> problem
>>>>> (the other connections would start with this one remaining down ..
>>>>> trying to bind, etc). Is there not an alternative option in terms of
>>>>> (from init.d/startup perspective) start isolated, allowing some time
>>>>> (seconds) for the available connections to bind then setting the
>>>>> connections to active. Or have I missed the point here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies if I'm muddying the water. I will try and follow more
>>>>> closely.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Alvaro,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just managed to finish with my responsibilities, not on April 10, as
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> was hoping. Meanwhile, I haven't heard from you in a while, and I hope
>>>>>> you are enjoying your vacations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is a patch to gw/bearerbox.c and gw/bb_smscconn.c, that doesn't
>>>>>> start the sms_router, until all smscs (except the FAKE) are ACTIVE. If
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am not mistaken, bearerbox will not start unless all smscs are
>>>>>> available. So this is inline with this philosophy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tested it to the extend that it doesn't break anything, please
>>>>>> let me know if it solves your problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>> <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>>>>> stuck inqueue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nikos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problem. I undestand we are on a "best effort support XD" and this
>>>>>> is not a critical issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EnvΞ β€ Ξ’Β­e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde
>>>>>> cualquier
>>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>>>> en el PerΞ β€ Ξ οΏ½, MΞ β€ Ξ’Β©xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use
>>>>>> aplicaciones 2
>>>>>> vias via
>>>>>> SMS y GPRS online
>>>>>> Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
>>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/3/31 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alvaro,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanx for reminding me. Unfortunately I am still working very hard
>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>> project. I will be finished by the 10th of April. Sorry about that
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> hope I am not causing you trouble. I put a reminder on my PC not to
>>>>>>> forget.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>>> <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>; "kannel users"
>>>>>>> <us...@kannel.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:17 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
>>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>>> inqueue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Nikos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Had you chance to review this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Env��­e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS)
>>>>>>> hacia y desde
>>>>>>> cualquier
>>>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>>>>> en el PerΠ�β€�Π�οΠ½, MΠ�β€�Π’Β©xico y en
>>>>>>> mas de 180 paises. Use
>>>>>>> aplicaciones 2
>>>>>>> vias via
>>>>>>> SMS y GPRS online
>>>>>>> Π’ Π’ Π’ Π’ Π’ Π’ Visitenos en www.perusms.NET
>>>>>>> www.smsglobal.com.mx y
>>>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/3/10 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am working on something very important right now. Could you give
>>>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>>> in 2 weeks or so, if no one has addressed it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanx,
>>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>>>> <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Nikos Balkanas" <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "seikath" <seik...@gmail.com>; "kannel users" <us...@kannel.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:29 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>>>> inqueue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Nikos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for 1... still looking at data/logs... nothing so far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for 2... You are right:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SMSC connections:
>>>>>>>> id1 �’ �’ AT2[id1] (online 323s, rcvd 48, sent
>>>>>>>> 48, failed 0,
>>>>>>>> queued 265
>>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>>> id2 �’ �’ AT2[id2] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>>> id3 �’ �’ AT2[id3] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>>> id4 �’ �’ AT2[id4] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>>> id5 �’ �’ AT2[id5] (online 314s, rcvd 0, sent
>>>>>>>> 0, failed 0,
>>>>>>>> queued 0
>>>>>>>> msgs)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All messages in queue for smsc-id "id_op1" were asigned to the 1st
>>>>>>>> available smsc that has allowed-smsc=id_op1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not developer but think this behavior shall be modified so
>>>>>>>> kannel
>>>>>>>> will be able to maximize/optimize its resources available. Some sort
>>>>>>>> of "recalculation of �’ the better route" for messages
>>>>>>>> each x time
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EnvΠ�οнв↬οΠ½Π�’В­e y Reciba
>>>>>>>> Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS)
>>>>>>>> hacia y desde
>>>>>>>> cualquier
>>>>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>>>>>> en el PerΠ�οнв↬οΠ½Π�οΠ½ , MΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½Ξ
>>>>>>>> ²β†¬οΠ½Π�’В©xico y en mas
>>>>>>>> de 180 paises. Use
>>>>>>>> aplicaciones 2 vias
>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>> SMS y GPRS online
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>>>>>>>> �’ �’ Visitenos en www.perusms.NET
>>>>>>>> www.smsglobal.com.mx y
>>>>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Nikos Balkanas
>>>>>>>> <nbalka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These are some heavy questions dude.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (1) SMS shoudn't get stuck like that so that they require restart.
>>>>>>>>> Anything
>>>>>>>>> in the logs?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (2) I could speculate why this happens, but without looking at the
>>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>>> code it would be guesswork. My guess would be that it involves the
>>>>>>>>> timing
>>>>>>>>> needed at startup to designate SMScs as active. Probably this is
>>>>>>>>> done by
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> of configuration order (i.e. id1, id2, etc.). The first active one
>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> queue. Bearerbox router checks in every 30".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvaro Cornejo"
>>>>>>>>> <cornejo.alv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "seikath" <seik...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "kannel users" <us...@kannel.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:41 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> stuck
>>>>>>>>> inqueue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, I'm using mysql for dlr storage since otherwise dlr are lost on
>>>>>>>>> kannel restart
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EnvΠ�οΠ½ Π�’В½e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de
>>>>>>>>> Texto (SMS) hacia
>>>>>>>>> y desde
>>>>>>>>> cualquier
>>>>>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>>>>>>> en el PerΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½ Π’ , MΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½ Ξ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½Ξ Β²Ξ²β€
>>>>>>>>> ¬Β°xico y en mas de 180
>>>>>>>>> paises. Use
>>>>>>>>> aplicaciones 2 vias
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>>>>>>>>> Π�οнв↬↢ Π�οнв↬↢ Ξ
>>>>>>>>> �οнв↬↢ Π�οнв↬↢
>>>>>>>>> Π�οнв↬↢ Π�οнв↬↢
>>>>>>>>> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:15 PM, seikath <seik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am not aware of the store_tools.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I assume you use default kannel store file
>>>>>>>>>> instead of db dlr storage, correct ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alvaro Cornejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi List
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've found the following 2 isues:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) I have several modems for the same operators 10 for op1 and 5
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> op2. For some reason, some messages get stuck into kannel queue
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> are not sent to smsc without restarting kannel. I've used Alex
>>>>>>>>>>> store_tools and verify messages are in queue. All messages are
>>>>>>>>>>> sent
>>>>>>>>>>> using the same code and use AT-SMSCs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) When I restart kannel QUEUED messages are sent through only
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> at-smsc even if messages have a destination smsc-id specified in
>>>>>>>>>>> sendsms url call
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is an snippet of the config I have:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id1
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id1,id_op1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id2
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id2,id_op1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id3
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id3,id_op1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id4
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id4,id_op2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = id5
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed-smsc = id5,id_op2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note there is no smsc defined with smsc-id=id_op1 nor id_op2 in
>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When sending the messages I use &smsc-id=id_op1 or id_op2 into
>>>>>>>>>>> url so
>>>>>>>>>>> kannel load-balance through the smsc of corresponding operator
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> send the message. This works fine until I restart kannel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After kannel reset, All QUEUED messages are sent through ONLY
>>>>>>>>>>> ONE of
>>>>>>>>>>> the smsc without load-balancing between smsc even though there
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of queued messages; however if, at the same time, I send
>>>>>>>>>>> messages to any of the id_op1 or id_op2, this new messages are
>>>>>>>>>>> correctly load-balanced between smsc-at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I use:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kannel bearerbox version `1.4.3'. Build `Feb 13 2009 17:32:59',
>>>>>>>>>>> compiler `4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-13)'. System Linux,
>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6, version #1 SMP Tue Jun 19 19:27:14 EDT 2007,
>>>>>>>>>>> machine i686. IP 10.10.5.2. Libxml version 2.6.29. Using OpenSSL
>>>>>>>>>>> 0.9.8b 04 May 2006. Compiled with MySQL 5.0.27, using MySQL
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.0.27.
>>>>>>>>>>> Using native malloc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alvaro
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> EnvΠ�οΠ½ Π�’В½e y Reciba Datos y mensajes
>>>>>>>>>>> de Texto (SMS)
>>>>>>>>>>> hacia y desde
>>>>>>>>>>> cualquier
>>>>>>>>>>> celular y Nextel
>>>>>>>>>>> en el PerΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½ Π’ , MΞ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½ Ξ οΏ½ΞΏΞ Β½Ξ Β²Ξ²β€
>>>>>>>>>>> ¬Β°xico y en mas de 180
>>>>>>>>>>> paises. Use
>>>>>>>>>>> aplicaciones 2 vias
>>>>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>>>> SMS y GPRS online
>>>>>>>>>>> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
>>>>>>>>>>> www.pravcom.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alan McNatty, Wellington, New Zealand
>>>>> Catalyst IT Limited <http://www.catalyst.net.nz/>
>>>>> DDI: +64 4 8032201
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan McNatty, Wellington, New Zealand
>>> Catalyst IT Limited <http://www.catalyst.net.nz/>
>>> DDI: +64 4 8032201
>>>
>>
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