then it's a bug ion smsc_at module and must be fixed.
Please report it via redmine and I will look into it when time permits...

Thanks,
Alex

Am 10.06.2009 um 16:02 schrieb Alvaro Cornejo:

Alex

If so, why if I have a runing kannel with all smsc's up (modems) and
one of them died/get locked and restart kannel it will panic and the
config haven't changed ?

If do nothing I get a "reconnecting" status on kannel and all other
smsc's continue to work normally. I can even disconnect the modem and
replace it and kannel will reenable the smsc. Kannel will continue to
work properly. Also I can shutdown/up the smsc wih no problem.

The panic occurs if I do reset kannel with a locked or disconnected modem.

Regards

Alvaro

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Alexander Malysh<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Nikos,

this panic is reached only if SMSC module has wrong configuration.
This panic has nothing todo with active/offline/not connected SMSCs.

Thanks,
Alex

Am 10.06.2009 um 14:32 schrieb Nikos Balkanas:

Hi Milan,

Please edit gw/bb_smsccconn.c and go to smsc2_start:

for (i = 0; i < gwlist_len(smsc_groups) &&.
     (grp = gwlist_get(smsc_groups, i)) != NULL; i++) {
     conn = smscconn_create(grp, 1);.
     if (conn == NULL)
         panic(0, "Cannot start with SMSC connection failing");
     gwlist_append(smsc_list, conn);
 }

That's panic. That's what I am talking about.

I didn't write these rules, and l am sorry, I don't have the time to
continue this debate.

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Milan P. Stanic" <[email protected] >
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
stuckinqueue


On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 14:32, Nikos Balkanas wrote:

I happen to agree also. But the fact is, that this is how kannel
currently works. And i have to abide by that. Anyway, read my response
to
Alvaro, it may be just a configuration issue.

I'm not sure if we are talking about same behavior of bearerbox but as
I see it, bearerbox in 1.4.3 version (and some previous) starts and
stays even if no one smsc (smsbox can't connect to SMSC) is running or in
online status.

If you talk about some specific configuration (smsc routing or load
balancing) then you might be right. I didn't tested such use cases.

Or, I misunderstood your post totally.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan McNatty" <[email protected] >
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Kannel not load balancing after restart and messages get
stuck inqueue


Milan P. Stanic wrote:

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 10:02, Nikos Balkanas wrote:

I must be the one thanking you for the discussion. You see I am a wap
guy, and don't know of many of the issues that sms people face.

The only concern is at startup. After it has bbox has started
succesfully, and therefore sms_router, started as well, it doesn't matter. You can take all the smscs you want offline to service them.
sms_router will work with the rest of them.

The only issue is for startup. I cannot test the scenario you
describe,
because i don't have real smsc connections. However, if both
connections
are active the minute kannel starts (1st case0, there should be no
problem. In the second case, the unavailable smsc should be
commented out
the configuration.

I guess the only question is: Under what circumstances bbox will
start,
if the 2nd smsc is not responding?

Bearerbox should always start. Even if there is no one smsc active.
Smsc can become active later for miscellaneous reasons.

I agree 100% with Milan here. SMSC's are not in our control - there could be many points of failure between kannel and SMSC. Firewalls, VPN's etc may be unhappy and we lose connectivity .. we need kannel to be stable (in operation and restart, etc) and manage the reconnect and
message distribution (SMPP is pretty good here).

As Alvaro was suggesting earlier in the thread some sort of dynamic redistribution of queued message (maybe like keepalived or sim.) could
be ideal .. but obviously some work ..

Nikos I appreciate you have been busy doing some development. I can
help
test some of the SMSC 'stuff' (from SMPP) perspective - it's obviously in my interest here ;). As of now I haven't used a-lot of the routing features so this is a bit new to me (I will try and get back into it
and
hopefully make some suggestions).

--
Kind regards,  Milan







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