On 29/06/16 12:08, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Petr Pisar wrote: >> per Build Root Without Perl Fedora 25 change >> <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Build_Root_Without_Perl>, I'm >> ready to implement the most visible part of this change. > > That change completely fails to account for the unknown (probably very high) > number of packages that run Perl scripts at any point of their build > process. All the steps you documented to detect affected packages catch only > packages that actually have Perl-related output (because you scan the > RUNTIME dependencies for Perl module or libperl dependencies), which are > only the tip of the iceberg. I expect this change to break a huge number of > packages' build in very strange, hard to debug ways. It is likely that some > will even silently build with some important functionality removed, because > Perl was not available to build some generated file or test for some system > properties. > > I also expect that a very high percentage of the packages will need a BR > perl (if not perl-generators or even perl-devel), making any buildroot size > savings moot, and actually SLOWING DOWN mock builds because perl will no > longer be included in the root cache. > > IMHO, any approval you obtained for this feature needs to be revisited, > because you failed to accurately describe the impact.
Good analysis. I would like the perl team to consider taking this opportunity to remove non-standard behavior instead of adding more. The whole perl/perl-devel split was to make the install smaller, mostly for build root reasons. Since that is no longer a consideration can we make it so that requiring perl gets you a proper perl core installed? That should stop most breakage as anyone using none core stuff should have had it specifically required anyway. Cheers, Jeff. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
