I have a question about this because I don't fully understand modularity. If these packages are retired, how will maintainers get them installed from their respective modules in order to build their own packages, and how will users get the appropriate modules installed to satisfy dependencies? Or is it the case that no F30 packages will be able to depend on them at all?
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 13:11 Mikolaj Izdebski <mizde...@redhat.com> wrote: > TL;DR I am planning to orphan Java packages listed below soon after > Fedora 29 GA. Let me know if you want to adopt any of them. > > I'm in the process of transitioning maintenance of all software to > modules only. The reason is that module maintenance is much easier > compared to maintenance of non-modular, "ursine" packages. Starting from > Fedora 29 modules are first-class citizens, so I am finally able to > orphan ursine packages that are already available in modules. > > Ideally these packages should be retired instead of orphaning them, but > these packages are build-required by a lot of other things. > Unfortunately as of today modules can't be used as build-requires of > ursine packages and I'm not aware of any plans to change that. Therefore > I will let interested parties take maintenance of orphaned packages, or > else let release engineering figure out how to retire them without > breaking the whole distro. > > I decided to start with the following subset of ursine packages for > which I am listed as PoC. Until Fedora 29 GA I will be providing all > updates and fixes to these packages in all active +*release branches. > After Fedora 29 GA I will orphan these packages, but I will keep > providing important bugfixes for Fedora 27 and Fedora 28. After Fedora > 28 EOL I will not maintain these packages in release (non-arbitrary) > branches at all - I will maintain only corresponding modules. > > If you want to adopt any of these packages, please let me know and I > will happily transfer them to you. > > > Packages orphan: > ant > ant-contrib > aopalliance > apache-commons-beanutils > apache-commons-collections > apache-commons-compress > apache-commons-io > apache-commons-jxpath > apache-commons-lang > apache-commons-lang3 > apache-commons-logging > apache-commons-net > apache-ivy > apache-parent > apache-resource-bundles > aqute-bnd > atinject > bcel > beust-jcommander > bsf > bsh > byaccj > cal10n > easymock > exec-maven-plugin > felix-osgi-core > felix-utils > geronimo-jms > geronimo-jpa > geronimo-parent-poms > glassfish-jsp-api > google-guice > guava20 > hawtjni > httpcomponents-client > httpcomponents-core > httpcomponents-project > jakarta-commons-httpclient > jansi > jansi-native > javacc > javacc-maven-plugin > 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plexus-archiver > plexus-bsh-factory > plexus-classworlds > plexus-cli > plexus-compiler > plexus-component-factories-pom > plexus-components-pom > plexus-containers > plexus-i18n > plexus-interactivity > plexus-interpolation > plexus-io > plexus-languages > plexus-resources > plexus-utils > plexus-velocity > qdox > regexp > sisu > sisu-mojos > slf4j > sonatype-oss-parent > sonatype-plugins-parent > velocity > xalan-j2 > xbean > xmvn > xz-java > > Maintainers by package: > ant akurtakov jcapik kdaniel mizdebsk msrb > ant-contrib davidcl mizdebsk > aopalliance mizdebsk > apache-commons-beanutils fnasser mizdebsk spike > apache-commons-collections jcapik mizdebsk > apache-commons-compress mizdebsk spike > apache-commons-io mizdebsk spike > apache-commons-jxpath fnasser mizdebsk spike > apache-commons-lang mizdebsk spike > apache-commons-lang3 mizdebsk > apache-commons-logging kdaniel mizdebsk spike > apache-commons-net mizdebsk spike > apache-ivy mizdebsk > apache-parent mizdebsk > 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maven-reporting-api mizdebsk > maven-reporting-impl mizdebsk > maven-resolver mizdebsk > maven-script-interpreter mizdebsk > maven-shade-plugin jcapik mizdebsk pingou > maven-shared-incremental mizdebsk > maven-shared-io mizdebsk > maven-shared-utils mizdebsk > maven-source-plugin mizdebsk > maven-surefire akurtakov jcapik mizdebsk > maven-verifier mizdebsk > maven-wagon akurtakov dbhole fnasser jcapik mizdebsk yyang > modello fnasser mizdebsk yyang > mojo-parent mizdebsk > munge-maven-plugin mizdebsk > objectweb-pom mizdebsk > os-maven-plugin ctubbsii mizdebsk > osgi-compendium mizdebsk > osgi-core mizdebsk > plexus-ant-factory mizdebsk > plexus-archiver dbhole jcapik mizdebsk > plexus-bsh-factory mizdebsk > plexus-classworlds dbhole fnasser mizdebsk > plexus-cli mizdebsk > plexus-compiler mizdebsk > plexus-component-factories-pom mizdebsk > plexus-components-pom mizdebsk > plexus-containers dbhole fnasser mizdebsk yyang > plexus-i18n dbhole jcapik mizdebsk > plexus-interactivity mizdebsk > plexus-interpolation gil jcapik mizdebsk > plexus-io jcapik mizdebsk > plexus-languages mizdebsk > plexus-resources jcapik mizdebsk > plexus-utils fnasser mizdebsk > plexus-velocity jcapik mizdebsk > qdox mizdebsk > regexp mizdebsk > sisu mizdebsk > sisu-mojos mizdebsk > slf4j mizdebsk > sonatype-oss-parent mizdebsk > sonatype-plugins-parent mizdebsk > velocity devrim mizdebsk > xalan-j2 kdaniel mizdebsk > xbean kdaniel mizdebsk > xmvn mizdebsk msrb > xz-java kdaniel mizdebsk > > Packages by maintainer: > akurtakov ant byaccj easymock maven maven-archiver maven-doxia > maven-doxia-sitetools maven-surefire maven-wagon > choeger bsf > ctubbsii easymock os-maven-plugin > davidcl ant-contrib > dbhole byaccj easymock jakarta-commons-httpclient > maven-doxia-sitetools maven-wagon plexus-archiver plexus-classworlds > plexus-containers plexus-i18n > devrim velocity > fnasser apache-commons-beanutils apache-commons-jxpath easymock > maven-wagon modello plexus-classworlds 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