On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Ty Young wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking of switching to Fedora 30 Silverblue(once it comes out of > beta anyway) from Arch linux. One of the requirements is to be able to > install, compile from source and easily switch between JDK builds.
Bigger picture, as another person commented the overall design push of Silverblue (and FCOS) is to use containers - I personally do all of my development inside `toolbox` where I install things with dnf (among other tools) and try to keep my host small. (Though I have package layered libvirt, tilix and sway for example). > However, Fedora fails to meet these requirements so badly I'm fairly > certain whoever packaged and approved the various Java RPMs was on > shrooms(partial offense, sorry but this is nuts). To be fair this is really rpm-ostree conflicting with alternatives: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1657367 Also, more generally anything that tried to "snapshot" system state would get into a mess with things in /usr referencing parts of /var. So fixing alternatives to keep state in /etc or /usr solely without involving /var would benefit everything. For example I bet alternatives is broken with https://github.com/openSUSE/transactional-update too (though it might be differently broken). rpm-ostree breaking alternatives is one of a few examples of why we basically need two systems for a while. (Though it's interesting of course since once you invest a lot in something like 'toolbox' you start thinking about snapshots of that, i.e. a clean separation of the container image and your state, and that would drive the container image more towards the "ostree style" filesystem layout, i.e. /var/home in your containers too, but that'd bring the alternatives problem back inside the container) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
