> On 12. Aug 2019, at 18:16, Lennart Poettering <mzerq...@0pointer.de> wrote:
> 
> On Mo, 12.08.19 09:40, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
> 
>> How to do this automatically? Could there be a mechanism for the
>> system and the requesting application to negotiate resources?
> 
> Ideally, GNOME would run all its apps as systemd --user services. We
> could then set DefaultMemoryHigh= globally for the systemd --user
> instance to some percentage value (which is taken relative to the
> physical RAM size). This would then mean every user app individually
> could use — let's say — 75% of the physical RAM size and when it wants
> more it would be penalized during reclaim compared to apps using less.
> 
> If GNOME would run all apps as user services we could do various other
> nice things too. For example, it could dynamically assign the fg app
> more CPU/IO weight than the bg apps, if the system is starved of
> both.

I really like the ideas. Why isn’t this done this way anyway?

I don’t have a GNOME desktop at hand right now to investigate how GNOME starts 
applications and so on but aren’t new processes started by the user — GNOME or 
not — always children of the user.slice? Is there a difference if I start a 
GNOME application or a normal process from my shell?

And for the beginning, wouldn’t it be enough to differentiate between user 
slices and system slice and set DefaultMemoryHigh= in a way to make sure there 
is always some headroom left for the system?

BK

(… I definitely need to play around with Silverblue to learn what they are 
doing.)
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