I hope the package gets unretired, because the way things are now, even
dnf groupinstall "Audio Production" fails to work.

- Mehdi

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 15:11 Guido Aulisi <guido.aul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Il giorno dom, 05/01/2020 alle 12.21 +0100, Miro Hrončok ha scritto:
> > On 03. 01. 20 19:24, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > > The dep was provided by non-ntk, which got retired about half a
> > > > year
> > > > ago [1] after FTBFSing since F29 [2].
> > >
> > > <SARCASM>Isn't it great</SARCASM> when the policy designed to
> > > remove
> > > breakage from the distribution actually CREATES breakage? Retiring
> > > packages
> > > with no regards to their reverse dependencies is just broken. It
> > > had never
> > > been done that way in the past, before Miro's recent crackdown,
> > > because it
> > > simply defeats all common sense.
> >
> > As a matter of fact, the policy was changed recently, so depending
> > package
> > maintainers MUST get notifications. The Fedora 31 round was
> > unfortunate, mostly
> > because nobody got properly notified. I have devoted a great amount
> > of energy
> > and time to make it better for next rounds. I hope it worked. Only
> > couple of
> > packages are to be retired, where the maintainers simply don't care
> > anymore with
> > only one dependent package:
> >
> >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YRLNHZSV4U47A3MDWIU6MUANVMPEFKD2/
> >
> > For the F31 crackdown - it's not like a retired package cannot ever
> > be
> > unretired. It has been more than 8 weeks now, but I gladly re-review
> > a package
> > that got retired, if new maintainers pop up. Unlike you, I actually
> > believe
> > packages must be maintained in order to be kept.
>
> I'm working for unretiring non-ntk, I think I can file a new review
> request in one week, as soon as I come back home; I'm already working
> on it.
>
> > The solution is not to stop orphaning/retiring FTBFS packages, the
> > solution is
> > to get "broken deps" notifications working again:
> >
> >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RBV3UTSPIGW3TOZJSYTXCZMRV4QBR7X5/
>
> Ciao
> Guido
>
> FAS: tartina
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