On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:38 PM Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin <lgrif...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > > We haven't ironed out the full details but what was incredibly clear to > us was that Gitlab was the decision to make. The next step in getting there > is what we are engaging in now to get thoughts and suggestions and expect > several threads in that capacity from a technical perspective in the coming > weeks and months. > > > It is not incredibly clear to the respondents on devel@. I don't care > to imagine what stronger disagreement on this particular point looks > like. > I respect that there is disagreement but Gitlab is the choice we are making. > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:27 AM Iñaki Ucar <iu...@fedoraproject.org> > wrote: > > > > I was referring to, and I was expecting, an open conversation about > > the User Story list, an open analysis of the requirements list. In > > other words: > > > > 1. Open conversation to gather requirements. Done. > > 2. Publication of User Story list. > > 3. Open conversation to discuss (2). > > 4. Publication of the final decision. > > > > I was expecting (3), and it's missing. > > > I concur, and don't think the missing piece has been adequately > addressed. There's a reason why there's bewilderment at the decision, > it's not ignorable. > How would you like us to address it more clearly? Fedora has had the publication of its User Story list, a threads worth of discussion on it occured and it was submitted. As have other stakeholder groups. I think the crux here is that we didn't publish the entire stakeholder User Stories for dissemination to each individual stakeholder group. With each group valuing something different, as is obvious from the discussion around individual requirements that has occured in several threads here, we didn't feel the value would have been there. That's on me for not looping the comms back in and I apologise for that. > Were there deliberations by CPE Team in between (2) and (4)? Yes, several hundred person hours worth of analysis, meetings and dissecting the requirements. > Is there > a record of those deliberations? > No, they were mostly video calls / in person meetings and the result is the User Story list and decision document for sharing. > > > > -- > Chris Murphy > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Leigh Griffin Engineering Manager Red Hat Waterford <https://www.redhat.com/> Communications House Cork Road, Waterford City lgrif...@redhat.com M: +353877545162 IM: lgriffin @redhatjobs <https://twitter.com/redhatjobs> redhatjobs <https://www.facebook.com/redhatjobs> @redhatjobs <https://instagram.com/redhatjobs> <https://red.ht/sig>
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