On Sat, 2020-09-12 at 20:53 +0000, Alexey Avramov wrote: > > how much memory that amounts to in the usual scenarios > > 700M on F32 without any apps started.
That seems like quite a lot. I mean, we get into a similar region of memory that EarlyOOM would be protecting with no apps started. So with applications started, you might get higher. > Largest file: (207.9M) /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive > > Files list with its sizes: https://pastebin.com/Hpr6D3Sv > > Locking even 250M-300M takes good effect. For example, demo: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vykUrP1UvcI - no freezes with > prelockd and freeze without prelockd Was that with or without swap? For GNOME some executable code is JITed javascript and we really need to protect that somehow. 250-300MiB sounds fine to me, though I do wonder how much of that is really not needed often (e.g. library code only used at startup). In general, I really prefer the cgroups approach taken with uresourced. prelockd is a cool experiment and it proves that executable code being reclaimed and refaulted is a major cause of latency. But I feel that uresourced is just nicer conceptually. i.e. we first segment the system into various parts, which is really simple to do with systemd (everyone is already moving to systemd). And then we simply ask the kernel for memory and other guarantees for important parts of the system. Unfortunately, while KDE is very close to using systemd for login, I don't think it is ready yet (at least not on F33). So uresourced is going to be ineffective for KDE for the time being. On my F32 with a fixed uresourced[1] and increasing memory protection to 350MiB, my GNOME session only has really minor hangs and only the first time I do the tail /dev/zero test. This is with swap on an SSD and EarlyOOM stopped. Benjamin [1] Right now there are two small issues that I will fix once beta freeze is lifted: - Memory protection is ineffective due to a systemd bug which prevents my workaround for another issue from working … - MemoryMin needs to be used for OOM scenarios (rather than MemoryLow) I'll leave the protected area at 250MiB though as that matches the initial change request.
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