On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 08:42:30AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>    On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 6:57 PM Kevin Fenzi <[1]ke...@scrye.com> wrote:
> 
>      On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:14:19PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
>      >
>      > One of the things that has recently happened in the Koji space is the
>      > addition of a kiwi-build task to build images using the KIWI tool[1].
>      >
>      > KIWI supports building all kinds of operating system images, including
>      > OCI containers. The Fedora Cloud WG is poking at the idea of using
>      > KIWI for the cloud image to replace the unmaintained and brittle
>      > ImageFactory, and we could also look at doing container builds with
>      > KIWI to replace the OpenShift Atomic Reactor system. That would
>      > drastically simplify the architecture and make container image builds
>      > considerably more reasonable for the Container SIG and any other
>      > stakeholders.
> 
>      Yeah, thats quite interesting. I would be happy to move to a pipeline
>      thats less fragile here. :)
> 
>      There's also talk about moving things to use ImageBuilder, but I don't
>      think it does containers.
> 
>    We can, and should, have RFEs for Image Builder to do containers.  I know
>    we need this internally as well.  It may farm that out to buildah in the
>    background or something, but that remains to be determined.
>    In the interest of commonality across the Fedora/CentOS/RHEL ecosystem, I
>    really think using Image Builder as the tool to build images is the best
>    approach.

The underlying tool, osbuild, can already build container. They can be made
available as tarball which one can just `podman import` afterward :)


Pierre
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