On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 14:50 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 2:42 PM Colin Walters <walt...@verbum.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 09:20:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > IIRC it was a condition of that proposal that we wind up on a hosted
> > > > version of the *open source* release of gitlab, which is something we
> > > > managed to talk gitlab into doing for us. IMBW, though, it was a while
> > > > ago.
> > > 
> > > Short version is: yes, we did talk them into that with an informal plan, 
> > > and
> > > then someone higher up at gitlab pulled the plug on the idea.
> > 
> > FWIW I interact with pagure rarely enough that it is somewhat painful to 
> > context switch each time.  I accept having to deal with both github and 
> > gitlab, but going from 2 to 3 has a real cost, particularly around things 
> > like CI systems.
> 
> Switch GitLab and Pagure in that statement and I could say the exact same 
> thing.
> 
> Personally, I find the Pagure UI (and GitHub) to be much cleaner and
> easier to navigate than the UX mess that is GitLab ...
> I even find fully FOSS alternatives like Forgejo (Codeberg) *much*
> easier to use than GitLab.

UI is one thing, but Colin's not wrong about CI.

Love Github or hate it, Github Actions is a pretty strong CI
implementation that is very easy to set up. I haven't personally set up
CI for a Gitlab repo yet, but I believe it's also relatively simple
there.

Doing it for a non-dist-git Pagure project is not *terrible*, but it
involves a lot more finicky steps than doing it on Github, including
waiting for someone to merge a pull request you have to file halfway
through:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zuul-based-ci#How_to_attach_a_Pagure_repository_on_Zuul

and you don't have access to something like the Github Actions library
of setup steps to configure your environment. It would be a significant
enhancement to Pagure if this experience could be made smoother for
non-dist-git projects.

On the whole, I do mostly like Pagure's UI too, but it is missing some
capabilities compared to much more deeply-funded projects (not a
surprise).
-- 
Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
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