Ok, round two! https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/142117?lang=en :)
The AI survey is live again, it will require you to re-fill it out unfortunately as the previous data couldn't be saved, and it would be a bit useless anyway as the ranking question has now been replaced with what I hope is a better version. I would really appreciate you taking the time to complete it again, it's still relatively short and the closing date has been moved to July 31st. I'll send a new email to devel-announce again to notify everyone of a new version to complete. The survey is only intended to understand community sentiment on AI/ML and Fedora in order to help the council create guidelines for the project on this subject. Read on for some extra 'How did we get here' context... The reason behind this survey was there was a council meeting a few months ago[1] where writing a policy for AI[2] came up and we didnt get anywhere with it. We realised we needed to understand how our community feels about AI before we could introduce any policy. We also decided a policy could be too heavy to introduce right now, and guidelines might be a better fit. To be able to write those guidelines, we needed to get community input, so we decided to create a survey. I asked over in discourse[3] what kinds of questions we should be asking in this survey and a group of us compiled the questions we got on discourse into what we felt were general enough questions that we could do the survey with - but they ended up being a bit too restrictive. So, after community feedback on the first question set, here we are with similar, but hopefully fairer survey questions that people can answer comfortably. Thank you sincerely for your patience and willingness to share your thoughts on AI/ML with regards to Fedora, some of you for the second time, through our survey. Kindest regards, Aoife [1] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting-1_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-05-22/fedora-council.2024-05-22-14.02.log.html [2] https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/486 [3] https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ai-survey-questions-what-should-we-be-asking/118338 On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:25 PM Aoife Moloney <amolo...@redhat.com> wrote: > Thank you all for the feedback, I hear what you're saying and the best > thing to do is to either scrap this initial survey and launch an updated > one that reflects people's preferences to not have AI in certain parts of > the project, or edit the ranking question to do this and make it more > explicit on what people dont want, and not just what they do. I hope > limesurvey allows for updating responses, but I'm not sure so I'll need to > look into it and will come back to you with a (hopefully) improved survey > soon. > > The main purpose of this survey is to try to understand the sentiment of > the Fedora community when it comes to having or using AI in the project, in > order to create good guidelines for ourselves. We probably were trying to > do too much too quickly with this initial go at an AI survey, so we're > going to re-review and clean up the ranking question. For me and the other > council members, it's more important to have our community be able to > answer this survey comfortably and honestly than keeping this survey around > that doesn't suit. > > I appreciate your patience and genuinely thank you for your time, > survey-fatigue is real so I'm glad to hear people are willing to > re-complete a new one if we need one, that makes it feel like this is > absolutely the right decision to make. My first option is to revise how we > have structured the ranking question, and if that fails, I will just do a > new survey altogether :) > > Thanks folks, will be back to you soon! > Aoife > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:57 PM Aaron Rainbolt <arraybo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 7/2/24 04:59, Aoife Moloney wrote: >> > I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has >> the >> > best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it >> > works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as >> last, so >> > reviewers of the survey would likely assume 'oh the <something> option >> > scored lowest, that means people really don't see AI/ML as suiting that >> use >> > case so we shouldn't focus any energy on this option'. >> > >> > Like I said, it really is great feedback because the tone of the >> question, >> > while deliberately trying to be positive because this is such a >> > controversial topic in and of itself, didn't raise this issue of >> needing a >> > 'doesn't fit at all' option when the survey questions were reviewed >> before >> > going live, and that's something we can take forward for the >> contributors >> > survey too for question structuring. >> > >> > >> > >> > The only reluctance I have on scrapping this survey and changing that >> > question and then relaunching is that I don't want it to be spammy, >> because >> > I'm sure a lot of folks have already completed the current one and >> there's >> > still the contributor survey too to be launched, but if folks are >> having a >> > terrible that with that question I'm particular, then I will and hope >> you >> > give me another few mins of your day again to fill it back out :) >> I personally would be happy to fill it back out if it were redone with >> room for more negative feedback. I filled it out and tried to be as >> optimistic as possible, but the fact that options like "virtual assistant >> in the OS" and "Copilot-ish tooling" were in the list of options was a bit >> horrifying to me and I would have liked to have put those in a "please >> don't" list. Some of the ideas in there like log analysis and moderation >> tooling seemed like a good fit for AI though (both of them if set up >> properly are areas where AI is less likely to get things wrong and where >> the consequences of it getting things wrong are lower, plus there's less >> legal risk with that sort of thing).-- Aaron Rainbolt >> > Aoife Moloney >> > Fedora Operations Architect >> > >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > > > -- > > Aoife Moloney > > Fedora Operations Architect > > Fedora Project > > Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im > > IRC: amoloney > > > -- Aoife Moloney Fedora Operations Architect Fedora Project Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im IRC: amoloney
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