On 02/10/2012 02:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/10/2012 01:17 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Ok, then my advice to you is: Stop shifiting around responsibilities
and start to work. Team up with others and start working on migrating
the remaining not-converted services.

Excuse me?

You have been telling me you are waiting for package maintainers to convert their services - To me, this is "blaming the others" and shifting responsibilities".

I've been working on this for 3 release cycles now and spend on average
30 minutes on each migration and I have for f15/f16 50 components that
are just stuck in bugzilla with no comments or movement on them and
another additional new 50 components for F17 which are also stuck with
no comments or movement on them.
Sorry, I wasn't aware about this.

That's total of 100 components with native systemd units attached to
them with *unresponsive* maintainers...

So, your point is: You converted and submitted patches, but the package maintainers do not respond?

[I don't maintain such packages, but at least to me your role in this conversion had been unknown and would also assume several of these maintainers do not understand your patches and systemd's details - At least I do not understand them]

=> System failure, time to raise the pressure.

Potential approaches:
- Send periodic nag mails to this list.
- Have FESCo "bring out the hammer"
- Contact proven packagers to intervene.

Ralf

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