On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga <l...@fedoraproject.org>wrote:

> On 05/02/13 12:09 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
>>
>> In the Gnome2 days you had choices between functionally similar DEs.
>>
>> Times have changed ... Gnome has been forked multiply (Gnome3, MATE,
>> Cinammon), xfce/enlightenment are back.
>>
>>  Gnome 3 is still Gnome. Both MATE and Cinnamon which came years after
> Gnome 3 via Gnome-Shell, are reactionary for self-interest because these DE
> can easily reproduced through Gnome-Shell extensions meaning they will
> become irrelevant in a future.
>
> Luya


While I agree that Gnome 3 is still Gnome... it is still Gnome in the sense
that Windows 8 is still just the new version of Windows.

Also, "years after"? I first read about MATE on the Arch forums back in
2011, a few months after the final release of Gnome 3 (which was in April
2011): https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=121162 Likewise, the
first post about Cinnamon on the Linux Mint website I can find was in
December 2011. Unless you were referring to the Gnome 3 development cycle,
I suppose.

For the record, I'm pretty sure replacing Gnome 3 with Cinnamon isn't the
best idea. (I think if we change the default at all it should probably be
to KDE instead, but that's just me). However, let's not pretend Gnome 3 (or
"Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell") isn't a very different desktop environment from
its predecessor, even though "it is still Gnome".

Ben
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