On 03/12/2013 01:07 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Lennart Poettering > <mzerq...@0pointer.de> wrote: >> On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: >> >>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson <bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> >>> wrote: >>>> Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to press some >>>> key at the >>>> right moment? >>> >>> A multiboot system needs at least a message to inform the user how to >>> get to the boot manager (the GRUB menu). A Fedora only system probably >>> should entirely suppress the menu or notice how to get to it. >> >> Somebody who is capable of installing multiple operating systems on one >> machine should easily be savvy enough to remember that pressing >> shift/esc/space/f2/whatever gets him the boot menu. >> >> If you installed multiple OSes and noticed that the boot menu is gone, >> wouldn't pressing these keys be your natural reaction anyway? >> >> Lennart > > I've been a hardware evaluator. Absolutely not, because different > hardware components have different, and fundamentally unpredictable, > configuration keys. Hiding the particular configuration key for the > bootloader, that may be only work for a few seconds in a lengthy boot > process on, say, an HP high end controller with several disk > controller cards, is wasting the system engineer's time with repeated > reboots where *she can't tell when to push the escape button without > triggering the wrong configuration tool*. > > I would reject out of hand tools that did this.
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