Am 21.07.2013 21:20, schrieb Matthew Miller:
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 04:09:32PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> the problem i see is when things like MTA and rsyslog are
>> removed from the defualt install many pakcgers will less
>> care about them in the future nor test how well it works
> 
> That's a separate issue. MTAs and syslog are going to be needed for many
> very important use cases for years to come

but it is how things are started

first the are not handeled with care at all
second nobody can rely on that they are there
third they get declared as obsoloete from people which not understand their 
usefullnes
fourth they are not supported by new applications because they are not always 
there

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