On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com>
wrote:

>
> On Sep 12, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The *only* way to do this
> > securely and safely in the system we have now is in a clean pre-boot
> > environment,
>
> Mostly clean post-boot environment, with the system we have now?
>
> > What we could do is do updates on shutdown by basically killing
> > everything except PID 1, and then restart everything, but even then
> > that relies on no systemd or kernel updates being present.
>
> Even if the system is fully rebooted once, after the update is done in a
> post-boot environment, it's half the reboots needed now.
>
> One step up from this would be a way for packages to contain metadata
> indicating they need a reboot after an update; if none require it, then
> isolate graphical.target rather than a reboot.
>

One step up from this would be something like a kpatch process in rpm
combined with packaged metadata that replaces in-memory modules so that
reboots wouldn't be necessary. Yeh, probably impossible.

Fred
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