On 9 December 2014 at 13:39, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org> wrote: > So your challenge is to find an alternative default that > supports it.
I'd go even further. I don't think the people writing the vast number of lengthy posts on this thread actually want to *use* workstation, with the possible exception of Bastien who's having to defend something he shouldn't have to. Reindl probably should just use the server spin, or be prepared to actually configure his box to do what he wants to be 100% paranoid and unusable for anything less than a technical user. If you don't like what workstation has decided to do, use another target, or a different distro entirely (like CentOS). If you want to change how workstation is designed, join the working group and please actually talk to people there. I think it's misguided to think that hurling insults here is going to achieve change. I think a lot of people also need to remember that workstation isn't built for them, and that's okay. If you know how to configure iptables then that's fine, but I'm happy to admit I don't, and normally just switch off the firewall entirely so I can get stuff done. F21 will be more secure for me, not less. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct