Am 11.09.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Zdenek Kabelac:
Dne 11.9.2015 v 16:44 Reindl Harald napsal(a):Am 11.09.2015 um 16:31 schrieb Zdenek Kabelac:Dne 11.9.2015 v 15:47 Reindl Harald napsal(a):don't tell me rpmfusion could not easily make that fully automatedThis Fedora plan simply puts too much work at everyone's hands. Sure - people who care about safety might have some option - like I always want to have ONLY the latest lib - and drop everything else, but there are still lot of users who could live with older libs quite happilly (and especially in the case they do not use the library in question AT ALL - which is the maint point here)you said "every one has tons of free time" - well - and who would maintain the dozen of versions of libraries packages?You miss few important points: 1.) If you have lib.so.2 and lib.so.4 - it may need far more work then just running rpmbuild - so far away from 'fully automated'.do we now build distributions backed by "may" and "possible" in most cases it is just a "rpmbuild" like the mass-build on koji and the exceptions need some handwork, no big drama2.) What maintaining time are we talking about - since Fedora breaks working thing in the first place for no good reason and force massive maintenance time on every user of new library in 'short' time for some potential 'security' fixes - but you may on the other hand put in dozed of new security breaks anyway - and when I see how frequently i.e. gtk libs may break whole distro - it would be far more pleasant to see just couple broken apps at time - instead of rendering whole rawhide unusable....just because you don't understand or agree with the reasons don't mean they are not goodIn real-world developing & testing app to work with all components takes significantly more time then in Fedora 'garden'.
don't explain me the real world after 12 years of software development
Not sure why you fail to understand this - I do like to have some apps to be latest/greatest - while others might be rather 'tested & stable' or even 'have them' (since they are no longer developed). More complex projects even fail to fit in 1/2 year release cycle. In non-Fedora 'world' it's the user who picks what he want to use, however in Fedora 'garden' a few people selects what user may use and puts huge walls and pointless obstacle all around if they want to use something else - yes I fail to see why this should be good for me....
really?that must be the reason why i run Fedora successful for 7 years now on all sort of production and development servers and chose for myself which version of mysql, php, postfix, dovecot, dbmail and what not is running and when it is deplyoed independent of Fedora reelase cycles in both directions (holding major upgrades back as well as make them long before Fedora)
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